Alkalinity And Ph

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Sea Turtle

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I am new to this hoby and finding the Chemistry terminology that I find on the web sites difficult to understand.

My question is, my PH and Alkalinity is a bit high. Alk 11 and PH 8.6. How are the two coriltated? If I add more Alkalinity will thin increase my PH? If I add more calcium will this lower my PH/Alkalinity? As you can see I am ???? to these methods.

Any help would be huge.

Thnx!
 
I read something about this topic and I don't know if it's Alzheimer but I don't remember much of it so I can't give you any clear and concise answers.

There are somewhere (again Alzheimer strikes) here in the FAQs a link to a site with "reef chemistry" or the like, maybe advancedreefers or so, that explains it well but as nobody has answered so far, I can give you at least a few sketchy hints.

Some authors suggested that a ph even around 8.6 wouldn't be that bad at all.

Alkalinity is like a reserve. It's a buffering capability maintaining a stable ph. In natural seawater, the alkalinity is quite low. There is not much buffering needed due to the sheer volume of the ocean.
It exists also some disagreement about the range of alkalinity. It depends on the specific tank how much alkalinity is needed as the ph gets lowered mainly by CO2 from the air and by acids from rotting food and waste products from the critters in the tank. But 12 dkH is often regarded as the upper limit to aim for.

Calcium is often added by kalkwasser. This solution raises your ph and your alkalinity.

If you add an alkalinity agent it will raise your ph, too. As I stated above, I'm not sure why but IMHO it's the carbonates and bicarbonates that first raise the ph and then stay present what raises the alkalinity. When those carbonates get consumed from CO2 and other acids you need to dose kalkwasser again.

But as the carbonates act as a buffer, you can raise easier the ph than the alkalinity. In fact, there is also the concentration of calcium, magnesium, boron, and maybe strontium in that order that form a trangle of dependencies with alkalinity and the ph.

There is also a subtile difference between the definitions of alkalinity - a more practical and a theoretical one. That makes understanding somewhat more difficult, too.

Take my hints only as a first step because I would have a bad feeling when I would need to appear at some chemistry test.
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Step 1: Get Magnesium over 1350 (1400 is a good target).
Step 2: Get Ca ~420-450, and ALK 10-11
Step 3: Use saturated Kalk water for top off.
Step 4: monitor and adjust, occasionally needing to re-balance Ca and Alk and Mag.



This will work for 90% of the tanks out there. Lots of stony corals... gonna need to keep dosing or set up a Kalk reactor.
 
It's not just calcium alkalinity and pH... In seawater solutions, the pH is for the most part a direct representation of the amount of BIcarbonate in the water column. More bicarb, higher pH, less bicarb lower pH. Now, Alkalinity measures the TOTAL of bicarbonate and carbonate ions in the water. It cannot distinguish between the two. As Dilbert said, higher Alkalinity prevents pH swings but does not necessarily lead to a high pH. Because if your alkalinity is high but most of that alkainity is made of carbonate and little is bicarbonate, your pH can still be low. But, if more of that alkalinity measure is bicarbonate, pH will rise.

There's two other buggers in this whole pH thing. First is CO2. If an aquarium either has poor gas exchange, or is in a closed up room with high ambient CO2, the levels of dissolved CO2 in the tank will be higher than normal. CO2 dissolved in water is of course acidic and will LOWER your pH. This is clearly not your problem as your pH is high. This indicates you have good gas exchange, well done. The other chemical to consider as Adrinal alluded to is Magnesium. When magnesium is high, it tends to force the balance of your alkalinity more towards the bicarbonate side. Having both high magnesium and high alkalinity is definitely a recipie for success in reef tanks as the buffering capacity of the alkalinity helps prevent pH swings, and the bicarbonate encouragement of magnesium keeps pH high and encourages calcification of hard corals.

Lastly, remember Sea Turtle, you are dosing I assume a home-made two part additive. One part of which is Baking Soda for alkalinity. Baking soda IS Sodium BIcarbonate... So by dosing this you are forcing your alkalinity balance towards bicarbonate. This is fine as higher pH isn't a problem, but it helps explain why :)
 

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