Ah Fudge...ammonia Problem

[twistedlink]

I tipped in a tad too much ammonia, it's around 8-9ppm rather than 5ppm on first drop-in, will this damage anything? Or should i simply wait until it hits 0 like the guide says and add in another 3.5ppm when its near the 0 mark?

 

[onlinebug]

Doing a 50% waterchange should help

 

[twistedlink]

Yeah well the problem with that is my chlorinating treatment is an ammonia remover, thats why i added more ammonia, as i thought itd be 5ppm once the ammonia remover had taken into account.

But i recently read that ammonia tests also pick up Ammonium and consider it as ammonia, so i may very well have just 5ppm of ammonia.

Thing is i dont wanna bother water changing right now as il have to use the dechlorinator and il get my maths all muddled up in how much ammonia really is in the tank

grrr, 8-9ppm shouldnt be too bad, i mean one of the methods get you up to 18-20ppm ammonia on the not add and wait method...I think i'll leave it and be more careful next time lol.

 

[the biffster]

if you are doing a fish less cycle why are are you using dechlorinator if you have got no fish whats the point
by the time you tank as cycled it will be free of all the chlorine as it bubbles of in a matter of hours



good luck biff

 

[twistedlink]

well i dechlorinated it as chloramines dont disperse like normal chlorine and i was under the impression the bacteria get killed by the chloramines, so the cycling wouldnt work?

Guess i was wrong

 

[OldMan47]

You are right twisted. The chlorine won't affect the ammonia but it can kill your bacteria. The water company put it in the water to prevent you drinking bacteria. The dechlorinator does not remove ammonia, it makes it less toxic to the fish. It will still get the bacteria going because they don't care what form they get their ammonia. You want to only be testing 4 or 5 ppm. As onlinebug said, its time for a partial water change with dechlorinator in the new water.

 

[the biffster]

Yeah well the problem with that is my chlorinating treatment is an ammonia remover, thats why i added more ammonia, as i thought itd be 5ppm once the ammonia remover had taken into account.

But i recently read that ammonia tests also pick up Ammonium and consider it as ammonia, so i may very well have just 5ppm of ammonia.

Thing is i dont wanna bother water changing right now as il have to use the dechlorinator and il get my maths all muddled up in how much ammonia really is in the tank

grrr, 8-9ppm shouldnt be too bad, i mean one of the methods get you up to 18-20ppm ammonia on the not add and wait method...I think i'll leave it and be more careful next time lol.

this what he said so it would be no good him adding ammonia has his dechlorinator would remove it

 

[twistedlink]

You are right twisted. The chlorine won't affect the ammonia but it can kill your bacteria. The water company put it in the water to prevent you drinking bacteria. The dechlorinator does not remove ammonia, it makes it less toxic to the fish. It will still get the bacteria going because they don't care what form they get their ammonia. You want to only be testing 4 or 5 ppm. As onlinebug said, its time for a partial water change with dechlorinator in the new water

Meh, could i just treat the extra ammonia like day 2 of the "add daily" method?

I wanted to do the add and wait method, if i wait until it reaches 1ppm and top it up to 3.5-4ppm again then in theory it should all still be okay shouldn't it?

The bacteria will still be fine and nitrite will be formed and nitrite loving bacteria will make nitrate, surely one mistake cant screw it up entirely?

And if it can...bugger LOL.