A Few Questions About Angelfish...?

[cuticom]

I've just been looking at some angelfish, I don't own any, but I'm considering setting up a new tank.

Anyways, the tank I have is an 80l/20g tall. I had to resilicon the base, so it's still curing but its measurements are 61cm long. 32 cm deep and 45 tall. I havnt actually run it through a calculator, but Ihave another tank slightly smaller dimensions, so this one should have the same capacity.

From what I've read 40l/10g per Angel is a good stocking amount? So in that tank I could have a pair of Angels? It'll be a species tank rather then a community tank, the only other thing I'd add is maybe a few bronze cories to pick up any dropped food.

I also wanted to double check that angels don't eat plants, the tanks gonna be densly planted, mainly with Elodea/Anarchis and Java Moss.

It'll also have a 400l/ph filter its slightly smaller then waht i'd sually use, but it won't be heavily stocked and I don't want the plants blowing around in a whirlpool.

Lol sorry, I'm rambling, I seriously need to sleep LOL anyways..

Emma

 

[The-Wolf]

it will be ok for juvinile angels
but adults (upto 7" disc) will require a tank with at least 18" of water depth.

on the whole angels don't eat plants, nibble them maybe but not outright devour them.

 

[cuticom]

The tank does have 18"depth? 45 cm is approx 18 inches, well it was last time I checked anyway.

I'm getting very confused with the sizings LOL, I keep getting sites saying 5-10g are good breeder tanks a few saying 15g breeder tank. Then others just have 20g listed, no mention of how many in the tank. Then another site says 10g for one and 20g for three plus. Then another site goes on about needing 100g for a single freshwater angel? LOL i think that one was a typo.

The tanks not a standard tank size, it is a kinda odd measurment but measured straight from the base to the top its 50 cm (20"), I removed 5cm (2") for the water level and gravel etc.

Edit just thought I'd add most of the sites I've visited have suggested 10g per angel if not being bred. I'm planning on just a common angel, not a veiltail or anything, and thought it'd be nice to have a couple floating around. My mum would also feel happier buying two fish instead of the livebearer tank i was planning.

 

[The-Wolf]

The tank does have 18"depth

will require a tank with at least 18" of water depth.

haveing a tank that is 18" tall and having a tank that has 18" of water depth are two different things
unless you plan on no substrate and are going to fill the tank to its brim.

as I said it will be ok for juvies, that gives you plenty of time
to upgrade

 

[cuticom]

Sorry, I'm kinda tired I guess I didnt make myself clear. The tank has 20"depth, I took away 2" for the substrate and water level (it aint gonna be filled to the brim LOl)

But apart from that I could keep two angel fish in it?

 

[The-Wolf]

in that case, yes it will be fine for a pair of angels

 

[DiscusKeeper403]

Actually, I was sold a 20g high tank and when you ring in the demansions it's actually closer to 23. I have 2 angels in it with some cories and live plants, the angels are good for taking the algae off the plants. They have been agressive latley after the fmeale laid eggs and the male ate them all so I have them seperated. Make sure you get two females unless you can get a good pair.

 

[LisaLQ]

I read 29g min for two angels? Breeding tank sizes are different to normal tank size recommendations as they're usually bare, and the people breeding them usually have a lot of experience and spare tanks should things go wrong.

 

[Tolak]

That tank would work for a pair as long as all you are adding besides the angels is a few corys. Less gravel will give you more water depth, any substrate is a filth collector. Sexing angels is flipping a coin, you can't reliably sex them unless they are actively breeding. Getting two females doesn't guarantee compatability, they can and do fight the same as males, or males & females.

The best way to get a compatable pair is to start with 4 smaller angels and let them grow out. Adults do need 10 gallons per fish, potential breeders need 5 gallons each. 4 angels gives you an 87.5% chance of a pair, if you overfilter & keep up on water changes you could start with 5 or 6 and sell off any that may be targets of aggression as they grow. This will almost guarantee a compatable pair.

A tall 20 gallon tank is fine for a pair of standard fins, veils do need a little more room, a 29 does work better. If you add anything more than the corys upgrade to a 29.

 

[cuticom]

I'm not really after a breeding pair, just two angels LOL. I don't plan on anything else, as I cant upgrade the tank, My Mum would ahve fit. I can split the angels up though and move one to my other 20g tank.

I cant start with anymore then two angels either. Our pet stores dont take back fish and I live out in the middle of nowhere, I'm not sure anyone knows what an angelfish is, let alone wnats one.