40 Gallon Stocking

[griddlebone]

Well, if anyone read my last topic, I have a 40 gallon tank with a single fish in it ( and i still am not sure what it is... lol) It is some sort of sunfish, and i want to know if there are anyone fish i could put into this tank with it. I wanted t buy what i thought was a yoyo loach, but it doesnt look like a yoyo loach at all, it looks like a tiger loach, you think I could mix them?

 

[7755matt]

rofl, I just googled sunfish and the first article is a wiki for sunfish that says its the heaviest fish, adult weight of 1 TON! I guess its not one of those?

 

[griddlebone]

rofl, I just googled sunfish and the first article is a wiki for sunfish that says its the heaviest fish, adult weight of 1 TON! I guess its not one of those?

lol not the ocean sunfish, the lake kind XD they have no relation but have the same name... kinda confusing lol

 

[Jdubz]

can you get a pic?

Just googled sunfish and OMG how big!!!!!

Jake

 

[Davo86]

is it any of these?

sunfish get to about 7-8inches
robust species should be ok with it, a small group of botias should be ok

 

[griddlebone]

http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=271309

all my pictures of him are on that forum lol.

 

[Davo86]

In that case a few hardy species should be ok, I'd go for just a few dithers or catfish

 

[Loony Fish]

the fish you have is called a blue gill.
they get about 12inches long and are very territorial.

 

[griddlebone]

the fish you have is called a blue gill.
they get about 12inches long and are very territorial.

could be a bluegill, but i have seen bluegill as small as my fish, and they do not look like him. im pretty sure hes a green or pumpkinseed sunfish. Either way, I want to know what kind of fish i can put with him, any ideas?

 

[griddlebone]

well my sunfish is giving my tiger loach a hard time, keeps chasing him around even though he is lsrger them him, length wise. do you think he will stop later? or should i add a cave or something for himto hide? i have a lot of plants in the tank, but they arnt doing much to keep him from chasing my tiger...

 

[Syphoniera]

Hi, griddlebone,
I'm NOT an expert, but in view of previous comments, I'd separate them ASAP, take the loach back or rehome the sunfish.
If there's a Q tank or any suitable tank ready, personally, I'd get one or the other out immediately.
Any seriously bullying or continual harassment will very rapidly run down a fish and make it susceptible to illness, even if it's not injured outright.
The constant stress and fear would be terrible for anyone to suffer - and I've seen firsthand how bullying can wipe out almost half a tank (they were stunted and suffering from a mycobacterial infection, but did quite well up until that point despite deformities) previously managing quite well, so I do speak from painful experience in that area. A healthy fish might last longer - but in misery.
If you provide hiding spots and the loach survives in hiding, what kind of a life will that be?
He's been thrown in a ring with a lunatic bully and the only escape is into the open air to die.

That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth, and with any luck an expert will come on soon, but immediate separation is something I'd strongly recommend.

 

[griddlebone]

Hi, griddlebone,
I'm NOT an expert, but in view of previous comments, I'd separate them ASAP, take the loach back or rehome the sunfish.
If there's a Q tank or any suitable tank ready, personally, I'd get one or the other out immediately.
Any seriously bullying or continual harassment will very rapidly run down a fish and make it susceptible to illness, even if it's not injured outright.
The constant stress and fear would be terrible for anyone to suffer - and I've seen firsthand how bullying can wipe out almost half a tank (they were stunted and suffering from a mycobacterial infection, but did quite well up until that point despite deformities) previously managing quite well, so I do speak from painful experience in that area. A healthy fish might last longer - but in misery.
If you provide hiding spots and the loach survives in hiding, what kind of a life will that be?
He's been thrown in a ring with a lunatic bully and the only escape is into the open air to die.

That's my 2 cents, for what it's worth, and with any luck an expert will come on soon, but immediate separation is something I'd strongly recommend.

yes, i agree, but i just added them to the tank, and this has happened with my rosey barbs and rainbow shark before, and after a day or 2 they calmed down and didnt pay much attention to the shark. I have just never delt with sunfish, and i dont know anyone who has, so I dont know weather they react like the semi aggressive fish I have and get bored of my loach, or will it continue to bother him... though I do have other tanks, the loach is pretty agressive himself and gets too large for any of my other tanks and i have to say he started the this fight, he followed the fish everywhere. I'm hoping it just blows over since its there first day in this tank.

 

[Syphoniera]

Well, you may well be right about them adjusting to each other - and you are the only one who can see how the situation feels, if you know what I mean.
Best of luck, in any event, and I hope someone who has kept sunfish will pop in with exoerienced advice, because not many people do have them.
An interesting but evidently tricky choice, in some respects.

 

[Davo86]

add some rockwork to the tank and a few more loach, as they should be kept in groups