Harlequins
***Corydora Crazy***
Hi there
Well i got some ammonia today to attempt to do a fishless cycle on my 30l tank.Its Jeyes 'Kleen off' household ammonia for 99p,i checked online the percentage and its 9 %,after checking the calculator for volume etc it has come up has 1.67 ammonia to put into the tank to get the desired level of 5ppm,i hope i'm getting this right,on my plastic 5ml syringe i bought from my local chemist for 20p,it only goes up in 1/2 and whole ml(if you get my drift) ,anyway do i aim at just past the 1 and 1/2 ml mark?
I have in the tank a bio filter connected to an airpump,heater set at 82 degrees,gravel with i originally used for my goldfish,but have now taken out the original filter has i don't think it was working properly anyway.
I intend on using this tank for possible platy fry.
I'm still trying to get my head around the fishless cycle,i understand about ammonia turning to nitrites then to nitrates,but i am unsure how often i put this ammonia in for,i have tried reading other posts regarding cycling with ammonia but the brain just won't take it in properly.
Do i add this 1.67ml of ammonia everyday until nitrites show?,do i do any water changes during this process or only when nitrates get to high?
Here's a run down of all readings so far;test kit interpet liquid test
start off
10.30pm added 5ppm ammonia
day 1
9.30am (12hr)-ammonia 1.2,nitrite 0.25,nitrate 25,ph 8.5
10.30pm(24hr)-ammonia 1.2 - added 5ppm ammonia
day 2
9.30am-ammonia 2.0,nitrite 0.5,nitrate 50,ph 8.5
9.30pm-ammonia 1.2,nitrite 1.5,nitrate 100,ph 8.5
day3
not tested am
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 4.0 -added 5ppm ammonia
day 4
9.30am-ammonia 1.2
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 4.0 -added 5ppm ammonia
day 5
9.30am-ammonia 0.4,nitrite 4.0 plus
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0, -added 5ppm ammonia
day 6
9.30am-ammonia 0.0,
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0 -added 2ppm ammonia
day 7
9.30am-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 0.5/1.5-going down
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 0.1 yah!! -added 2ppm ammonia
day 8
unable to test water-awaiting new test kit
11.30pm added 2ppm ammonia(nearly forgot)
day 9 New api master test kit is here!!
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0.50
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 YES!!!-added 3ppm ammonia-going back up-fingers crossed
day 10
9.30am-ammonia 0.5 nitrite 1.0
9.30pm ammonia 0.25 nitrite 0.50 no ammonia added
day 11
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0,added a few flakes,will add ammonia tonight
9.30pm-ammonia 0 nitrite 0, added 3ppm ammonia
day 12
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50 seems to be slowing down
day 13
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 14
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50 no ammonia added
day 15
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 16
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25 this is getting frustrating!!!
day 17
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0
9.20pm -ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 18
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 -added 3ppm ammonia -keeping fingers crossed it may hit 0 in the morning
day 19
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 20
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25,ph 7.8
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 21
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 22
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0, nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 23
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25 yet again.....
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 -added 3ppm ammonia!
day24
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 25
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25 -
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 26
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 27
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0
100% water change,Forced into adding 3 platy fry!!
ammonia 0,nitrite 0
day 28
8am-ammonia 0,nitrite- not quite zero,slight reading,have moved fry out and will remain fishless until it clears on reg basis!
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 29
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 0.25
10pm- ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50
day 30
9.30am-ammonia 0.nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 31
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 32
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0,ph 7.8/8.
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
day 33
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 0.50
12.30pm-gave sponge filter a good squeeze in used tank water(thanks oldman)
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 34
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 35
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 36
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 37
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 1.0
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 38
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.50 added 3ppm ammonia
day 39
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0,nitrate 40,ph 7.8
9.30pm-
Well i got some ammonia today to attempt to do a fishless cycle on my 30l tank.Its Jeyes 'Kleen off' household ammonia for 99p,i checked online the percentage and its 9 %,after checking the calculator for volume etc it has come up has 1.67 ammonia to put into the tank to get the desired level of 5ppm,i hope i'm getting this right,on my plastic 5ml syringe i bought from my local chemist for 20p,it only goes up in 1/2 and whole ml(if you get my drift) ,anyway do i aim at just past the 1 and 1/2 ml mark?
I have in the tank a bio filter connected to an airpump,heater set at 82 degrees,gravel with i originally used for my goldfish,but have now taken out the original filter has i don't think it was working properly anyway.
I intend on using this tank for possible platy fry.
I'm still trying to get my head around the fishless cycle,i understand about ammonia turning to nitrites then to nitrates,but i am unsure how often i put this ammonia in for,i have tried reading other posts regarding cycling with ammonia but the brain just won't take it in properly.
Do i add this 1.67ml of ammonia everyday until nitrites show?,do i do any water changes during this process or only when nitrates get to high?
Here's a run down of all readings so far;test kit interpet liquid test
start off
10.30pm added 5ppm ammonia
day 1
9.30am (12hr)-ammonia 1.2,nitrite 0.25,nitrate 25,ph 8.5
10.30pm(24hr)-ammonia 1.2 - added 5ppm ammonia
day 2
9.30am-ammonia 2.0,nitrite 0.5,nitrate 50,ph 8.5
9.30pm-ammonia 1.2,nitrite 1.5,nitrate 100,ph 8.5
day3
not tested am
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 4.0 -added 5ppm ammonia
day 4
9.30am-ammonia 1.2
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 4.0 -added 5ppm ammonia
day 5
9.30am-ammonia 0.4,nitrite 4.0 plus
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0, -added 5ppm ammonia
day 6
9.30am-ammonia 0.0,
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0 -added 2ppm ammonia
day 7
9.30am-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 0.5/1.5-going down
9.30pm-ammonia 0.0,nitrite 0.1 yah!! -added 2ppm ammonia
day 8
unable to test water-awaiting new test kit
11.30pm added 2ppm ammonia(nearly forgot)
day 9 New api master test kit is here!!
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0.50
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 YES!!!-added 3ppm ammonia-going back up-fingers crossed
day 10
9.30am-ammonia 0.5 nitrite 1.0
9.30pm ammonia 0.25 nitrite 0.50 no ammonia added
day 11
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0,added a few flakes,will add ammonia tonight
9.30pm-ammonia 0 nitrite 0, added 3ppm ammonia
day 12
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50 seems to be slowing down
day 13
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 14
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50 no ammonia added
day 15
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 16
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25 this is getting frustrating!!!
day 17
9.30am-ammonia 0 nitrite 0
9.20pm -ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 18
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 -added 3ppm ammonia -keeping fingers crossed it may hit 0 in the morning
day 19
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 20
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25,ph 7.8
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 21
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 22
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0, nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 23
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.25 yet again.....
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 -added 3ppm ammonia!
day24
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 25
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25 -
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 26
9.30am-ammonia 0 ,nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 27
9.30am-ammonia 0,nitrite 0
100% water change,Forced into adding 3 platy fry!!
ammonia 0,nitrite 0
day 28
8am-ammonia 0,nitrite- not quite zero,slight reading,have moved fry out and will remain fishless until it clears on reg basis!
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 29
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 0.25
10pm- ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50
day 30
9.30am-ammonia 0.nitrite 0.25
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 31
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 32
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0,ph 7.8/8.
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25
day 33
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 0.50
12.30pm-gave sponge filter a good squeeze in used tank water(thanks oldman)
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 34
9.30am-ammonia 1.0,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0.nitrite 0.25 added 3ppm ammonia
day 35
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 0.50
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 36
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 37
9.30am-ammonia 0.50,nitrite 1.0
9.15pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 1.0 added 3ppm ammonia
day 38
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0
9.30pm-ammonia 0,nitrite 0.50 added 3ppm ammonia
day 39
9.30am-ammonia 0.25,nitrite 1.0,nitrate 40,ph 7.8
9.30pm-