Zebra Danios

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I'm considering a lower end (around 1.003) brackish water livebearer community for my 20 gallon tank and was wondering how zebra danios would handle brackish conditions? They seem to be well with other conditions and very hardy and I was thinking of dropping some of them in for even more variety.

So does anyone know how well they tolerate brackish conditions, if at all? I have no idea and can't find much info.

I also don't mean just "tolerate", I want them to be happy too and if they won't be happy in brackish I won't put them in.
 
As the Wolf says, it's not a good idea. I dare say danios will tolerate a certain amount of salt, but it isn't part of their natural environment.

There are so many better choices for dither fish in brackish water aquaria: livebearers, rainbowfish, killifish, glassfish, halfbeaks, even a few barbs and at least one tetra. I'd choose something from that list, and remove any doubt from the equation.

Cheers, Neale
 
Thanks for the answers. Zebras are a no go then.

Neale, you mentioned barbs and a tetra? Which ones are you talking about? Are there ANY barbs that would be brackish AND safe with guppies?

I'm also considering glassfish. They are always sold locally along with the various livebearers.

Also, I've seen it mentioned that cories can withstand a little salt. Does this mean I could leave my aeneus in there and get some more? Or are aeneus a no go as well?

Thanks for any further help!
 
Several barbs are brackish water-tolerant, including:
  • Puntius vittatus
  • Puntius ticto
  • Puntius sophore
  • Puntius amphibius
  • Puntius sarana
  • Puntius cataractae
  • Puntius anoplus
  • Esomus lineatus
  • Esomus lineatus
  • Chela laubuca
  • Probarbus jullieni
Of these, only Puntius ticto and Puntius vittatus are traded regularly, though you sometimes see Chela and Esomus species in the shops.
As for the tetras, among the ones found in brackish water are:
  • Hyphessobrycon axelrodi
  • Brycinus longipinnis
  • Brycinus macrolepidotus
  • Astyanax aeneus
  • Roeboides bouchellei
  • Pristella maxillaris
Hyphessobrycon axelrodi, Brycinus longipinnis and Pristella maxillaris are widely traded; the others less so.

Admittedly, most of these fish are only tolerating brackish water rather than being characteristic of it, and their tolerances are fairly low compared with, say, livebearers. In other words, these are for tanks with low salinities, around SG 1.002-1.003, rather than mid salinity systems alongside scats and monos.

Brycinus longipinnis and Puntius sarana may be exceptions, being associated with brackish water to a rather greater degree than the others, and so may even go up to SG 1.005. Are any of these good for livebearer tanks? I'd guess quite a few, if the amount of salt being added was at a "therapeutic" level rather than an attempt to create a bona fide brackish water aquarium.

It should be mentioned that many cyprinids in the UK are decidedly salt-tolerant, including bream and roach. So simply because a fish is a "primary freshwater fish" and a member of the cyprinid or tetra families doesn't automatically mean it is salt-intolerant. Some of these barbs and tetras will tolerate salt rather better than, say, soft water cichlids, despite cichlids belonging to a group often talked about as being salt-tolerant "secondary freshwater fish". As with everything in biology, it's complex!

Dave Sands has mentioned in at least one catfish book of mine that Corydoras will tolerate low levels of salt without harm, making them adequate companions for mollies and guppies. Personally, I'd probably go with Hoplosternum littorale if I was after a low-salinity catfish; it's essentially a souped-up Corydoras but tolerates up to 40% seawater and is incredibly hardy. But with care, I'm sure the tougher Corydoras from coastal regions in the Guyanas and the like would do well in a low salinity system.

Cheers, Neale

Neale, you mentioned barbs and a tetra? Which ones are you talking about? Are there ANY barbs that would be brackish AND safe with guppies?
 
Thanks a million times for all your info Neale! I didn't know you were so knowledgeable. But now that I know I'll look at getting your book. :good:

Thanks again for all your help!
 
Happy to help. The only tetra in the book is the x-ray tetra, Pristella maxillaris, a remarkably adaptable species that will do well up to pH 8, 35 degrees dH hardness! It does indeed live in brackish water in parts of its range, though admittedly very low salinity brackish water.

Cheers, Neale
 
I'll tell you one thing... Zebra danios are some tough fish!
 

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