Your Dream Brackish Tank

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Ok so, here's your chance to plan your dream 6 x 2 x 2 brackish tank. (This thread is obviously a thin veiled ploy for me to get some ideas for planning mine).

Kind of fish to think of are -


Brackish eels
Waspfish
Puffers
Gobies
Pipefish
Scats
Monos
Archers
Chromides
Shark Cats

and more.

So, 180 gallons-ish, brackish tank. What salinity would you keep it at, and what would you keep in it?
 
Hi Fella


I don't realy like giving advise as I only been keeping brackish for about six month. I've got a 4ft tank at the moment and I got two columbian shark cats in there so I am thinking of buying a 5x2x2. I have been told that they have to be in a marine tank evantually. The same for my GSP. I also gonna keep my Mono and Archer Fish. The Chromides and Knight Gobys have to be in lower salinity. I also got a croacking Toadfish. I am sure other people will give you loads of ideas.

Sabby :)
 
Hi Fella


I don't realy like giving advise as I only been keeping brackish for about six month. I've got a 4ft tank at the moment and I got two columbian shark cats in there so I am thinking of buying a 5x2x2. I have been told that they have to be in a marine tank evantually. The same for my GSP. I also gonna keep my Mono and Archer Fish. The Chromides and Knight Gobys have to be in lower salinity. I also got a croacking Toadfish. I am sure other people will give you loads of ideas.

Sabby :)


Noooooo, don't think of it as advice!

Just list down what fish you would want to keep in a hypothetical 6x2x2 that you might want to own :)
 
Fella --

Rather than advise on fishes, I'll tell you what I'd like to create if I had the space for a giant tank. An aquarium that looked like the edge of a harbour. I've explored habitats like these in the wild in the UK and US, and seen brackish water beasts of all kinds, from puffers to manatees.

What I have in my mind is a wooden pier with legs made from upright bits of wood. This would be along the back half of the tank and create the shade. The background would look like a harbour wall, with barnacles and oyster shells and whatnot stuck to it. Lots of algae! The floor of the the tank would be rocky with lots of broken seashells. Now the lighting is the important bit. Needs to be a distance above the tank so that light shines down onto the water and creates the ripple effect, while producing lots of shade under the pier. Perhaps a bit man-made detritus would be put on the bottom of the tank, like those fake anchor chain segments, just to give the thing a focus point.

I'm not sure how all of this would be created, but I imagine that a school of monos or scats cruising in and out of the shady area and around the vertical pier pilings would look awesome.

Cheers,

Neale
 
Fella --

Rather than advise on fishes, I'll tell you what I'd like to create if I had the space for a giant tank. An aquarium that looked like the edge of a harbour. I've explored habitats like these in the wild in the UK and US, and seen brackish water beasts of all kinds, from puffers to manatees.

What I have in my mind is a wooden pier with legs made from upright bits of wood. This would be along the back half of the tank and create the shade. The background would look like a harbour wall, with barnacles and oyster shells and whatnot stuck to it. Lots of algae! The floor of the the tank would be rocky with lots of broken seashells. Now the lighting is the important bit. Needs to be a distance above the tank so that light shines down onto the water and creates the ripple effect, while producing lots of shade under the pier. Perhaps a bit man-made detritus would be put on the bottom of the tank, like those fake anchor chain segments, just to give the thing a focus point.

I'm not sure how all of this would be created, but I imagine that a school of monos or scats cruising in and out of the shady area and around the vertical pier pilings would look awesome.

Cheers,

Neale



I've thought of this before! I've said to my girlfriend in the past how it would be brilliant to have a tank that looked like the end of a jetty or pier. I always envisage wooden stilts from top to bottom in the tank, with that nylon style twin reache just blowing around in the current. It'd make for a great tank because it would be like a direct slice of nature, cut straight out, and you could use the pier to hide all the filter mechanics. It'd be quite different to, to have a tank replicating nature, with man made influence. But yes, I agree entirely, it's just the logistics that scare me on that one a bit. Where does one buy a pier these days?

I've also seen something quite similar in a display tank at the birmingham sea life center. It was a small exhibit (and my favourite by far), that was a pier leading out into a small section of water, with a few archers, monos, scats and a red looking eel. It had great potential.

My biggest worry with the tank I want to do (other than the heinous amount of salt I'll need) is finding the fish I want in the right salinities. I love columbian shark cats, and I love GSPs, but I also really like knight gobies. Then of course there are eels as well, I've been watching a "gymnothorax" eel at an LFS recently (he hasnt sold for over 6 months) and he looks great too, even for a very grey tropical fish.

Scats and monos I've never bee a great fan of, but they're essential really. I imagine in a big tank, with lots of swimming room they'd have a much better personality than all the ones I see in freshwater at shops being kept with neons. And archers of course really speak for themselves. I've always enjoyed fish with interesting behaviour (I think that explains why I keep tanganiyikan cichlids and oddballs) but archers would probably take the biscuit.

But yes, I agree that making the tank look great is essential. In a brackish tank you could almost lay a brick wall, so I'll need to look at an option for doing that, cheaply, and without weighing in at a literal ton.

Craig
 
I'm actually currently setuping up a 200G that's 7x2x2. It's primarily an Archerfish tank that is themed after the edge of a mangrove swamp. The background is 3D Mangrove Root Structure with tall embankments of sand leaning up against the back and corners of the tank. Live red mangrove saplings all over the place; at least that was the plan before I killed 1/2 of my stock with the rest soon to follow. The tank also features a tidal system and lunar phase moonlighting.

However, when I think about my dream brackish tank I think of a paludarium that's roughly about 10x10ftx5ft with an open top and a variety of depths with a very deep end and a very shallow end. It would be cool to have some 10ft+ mangrove trees growing out of an open top with a large series of hanging pendant lighting dangling from the ceiling or a ton of strip lights mounted on the ceiling above the canopy of the mangroves. It would give an excellent shade cover in the tank. It's all just a dream because live trees of that size in an indoor tank would probably be unreasonable. I'd probably build something synthetic. Brackish fish of choice would be a species of snapper!

As for the harbor tank that Neale dreams of; I have a similar dream. In my case it's coldwater marine surf dwelling fish with a wave machine.

Just so you guys know a 200G tank isn't that difficult or expencive to setup. My tank, stand, 2 canisters was purchased used for $225. Silica-Based Play Sand is $3.68USD/per 30lb bag. Custom built canopy will cost me around $70-$100. The true difficulty is where you'll put a tank that will easily weight near 2000lbs.

Live the dream, gentlemen... it's within our reach!
 
Fella, if you are seriously considering a 6x2x2 tank, take a look at some Datnioide species. They are awesome predators, and grow quite large (but will live comfortably in a tank this size). Their wide yellow and black bars on their boy make them an attractive fish. Google Datnioide, they are quite an interesting species.
 
Fella, if you are seriously considering a 6x2x2 tank, take a look at some Datnioide species. They are awesome predators, and grow quite large (but will live comfortably in a tank this size). Their wide yellow and black bars on their boy make them an attractive fish. Google Datnioide, they are quite an interesting species.

Datnioides are neat, that is a really good suggestion. Or what about an Anableps Microlepis tank since you'd be able to easily provide a deep and shallow end with plenty or room for a decent school.
 
ytou could probaly start a puffer coloney and at that size still ahve room for outher fish like well dunno im not realy all that into brakish i have had tanks but i would get them perfect and my brouther would do somthing and kill my tank so i guess i have to wait to re emurse myselfe or i lose more fish
 
Fella, if you are seriously considering a 6x2x2 tank, take a look at some Datnioide species. They are awesome predators, and grow quite large (but will live comfortably in a tank this size). Their wide yellow and black bars on their boy make them an attractive fish. Google Datnioide, they are quite an interesting species.


Yeah, I recently read Sean Evans' topic on the practical fishkeeping website about dats, and they look like really cool fish. D. quadrifasciatus is the one I think I'd want to go for if I were to keep one in a brackish tank, the only thing I find conflicting data on on the net is their required SG. I'm imagining something like 1.005? I'd lso have to purchase all fish bigger than it's mouth!

Great recommendation though, I've always been a fan of them and only recently realised some are brackish species. They'll defeinitely be something I'll consider!
 
Fella, if you are seriously considering a 6x2x2 tank, take a look at some Datnioide species. They are awesome predators, and grow quite large (but will live comfortably in a tank this size). Their wide yellow and black bars on their boy make them an attractive fish. Google Datnioide, they are quite an interesting species.

I'm imagining something like 1.005? I'd lso have to purchase all fish bigger than it's mouth!

I'd probably suggest keeping them in a species only tank.
 
Fella, if you are seriously considering a 6x2x2 tank, take a look at some Datnioide species. They are awesome predators, and grow quite large (but will live comfortably in a tank this size). Their wide yellow and black bars on their boy make them an attractive fish. Google Datnioide, they are quite an interesting species.

I'm imagining something like 1.005? I'd lso have to purchase all fish bigger than it's mouth!

I'd probably suggest keeping them in a species only tank.

Bah, I'll probably have to strike them off the list in that case, which is a shame because they look great.
 
Datnoids work fine in community tanks of larger sized fish, things like morays, shark cats, archers, scats and mono's are all Dat proof sized fish. The only problem i can see is that as the other fish mature they need increasingly high salinity right up to sea water strength where as the Dat wont like it rising much above 1.005 so they will need to be seperated at some point in the future.

As for a perfect brackish set up ive always wanted to do a mangrove set up with a beach area and a tidal flow system installed stocked with mudskippers, archers and fiddler crabs.
 
As for a perfect brackish set up ive always wanted to do a mangrove set up with a beach area and a tidal flow system installed stocked with mudskippers, archers and fiddler crabs.

That's what I'm doing, but I'm a little nervous about indian mudskippers being so small they'll eventually be eaten. Also afraid I wont have enough beach area for larger species of mudskippers. Also I've been reading that fiddlers and mudskippers will kill eachother... don't know if you've tried them out together.
 
I've not tried them myself but have seen the mudskipper/fiddler crab combination in a lfs display tank and it seemed to work, this was using the large species of mudskippers and the small purplish fiddler crabs (lol very scientific description there).

I'll probably never get round to installing a system like this as it would just take up too much room which i would rather have for my other passions of big catfish and large predatory oddballs :/
 

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