Will This Mix Work

[pippoodle]

planted 240 ltr tank with coconut caves and bogwood

6 Honduran red point , 2 bolivian rams , 2 golden balloon rams , 4 dwarf gouramis , 8 honeys (inc 2 red robin) and some corys and shrimp

not sure about adding the honey gouramis although they to are quite agressive - protective when breeding and also have their own territories in the tank i

 

[pippoodle]

bump

 

[england]

I think your better leaving the HRP'S out of the tank, quite aggressive, very similar to con's

 

[treefella83]

yes i agree with nelly they are nearly as agresive as convicts

 

[pippoodle]

everything i've read about them say they are not as aggressive as convicts and says they can work in community tank
there are reports of them being aggressive as convicts but these seem to be ones that have been crossed with convicts for more intense colouring

in have a spare tank to remove parent and fry to for my rams so if there was any aggression if spawning took place i could use that for my hondurans


even the link on here says that they arent really aggressive like convicts are thats why i was getting them for the 240 ltr tank
http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=242196

and from sites
Although Convicts and Red Points are both great parents, their behavior when caring for young is much different. The Red Points really are not aggressive while spawning. The Convict will kill anything in the tank with it while spawning.
The Red Points are a lot more timid and spend a lot of time hiding. Although the Red Points will hold their ground, they will not be the most dominant fish.

Description: The Honduran red point or HRP should be cared for in the same way as their close cousins the Convicts and the T Bar cichlid. The HRP’s are somewhat territorial but not overly aggressive. They should be kept with other small to medium sized cichlids of similar temperament or community fish that will grow to a minimum size of 2". The Honduran red point is a gorgeous cichlid that is relatively easy to care for and are relatively peaceful for cichlids. They can safely breed with other fish in a larger tank so long as they have plenty of room

 

[Sheilaf]

The red points will kill the rams. They aren't quite as aggressive as convicts but pretty darn close. They would be ok in a CA community with other robust fish but the rams won't stand a chance, especially the balloon rams which stay fairly small. I had a lone male HRP and even without a female and mating he was one tough bugger.

 

[pippoodle]

The red points will kill the rams. They aren't quite as aggressive as convicts but pretty darn close. They would be ok in a CA community with other robust fish but the rams won't stand a chance, especially the balloon rams which stay fairly small. I had a lone male HRP and even without a female and mating he was one tough bugger.

the bolivians and the golds are quite aggressive with the golds being the most aggressive
the HRPs are 1" in size so i can see wether any aggression arises as they grow
the tank will be heavilly planted with lots of caves and wood

 

[Sheilaf]

You can try it if you want. I've kept rams and I've kept red points, the rams aren't nearly as aggressive and the red points will have the size advantage. I'm sure as juvies it will be ok but as they grow into adults the rams won't stand a chance. They are just not as aggressive as the red points. There are always exceptions with what will work and what won't. It does come down to individual personalies. But like the other posters I completely agree that the red points are more aggressive than the rams. As far as aggression goes, bolivians and balloon rams just don't compare with most central americans. The only centrals I'd try with rams would maybe be rainbow cichlids or possibly cryptoheros sajica. Other than that I just don't think your rams will stand a chance. But you never know, crazier things have happened, I'm sure.

 

[pippoodle]

You can try it if you want. I've kept rams and I've kept red points, the rams aren't nearly as aggressive and the red points will have the size advantage. I'm sure as juvies it will be ok but as they grow into adults the rams won't stand a chance. They are just not as aggressive as the red points. There are always exceptions with what will work and what won't. It does come down to individual personalies. But like the other posters I completely agree that the red points are more aggressive than the rams. As far as aggression goes, bolivians and balloon rams just don't compare with most central americans. The only centrals I'd try with rams would maybe be rainbow cichlids or possibly cryptoheros sajica. Other than that I just don't think your rams will stand a chance. But you never know, crazier things have happened, I'm sure.

i have plenty of other tanks to move them into if there does become a problem - they'll have to stay in a bucket for an hour or so while i do a tank shuffle
i wouldn't let them fight just for the sake of it so will keep a close eye as they grow and keep you all informed

i'm not saying i dont believe what any one has posted and will be extremly vidulant with the fishes behaviour as they mature
i only sleep about 2-3 hours a night and am here most of the day - apart from school run times so i will keep a very very close eye on them and appreciate all the advice -- hope makes sense dont want anyone to think i'm just ignoring advice - if they were adult fish i just wouldn't have added them at all but seeing as they're fry thats why i'm giving it a go

MS head not good today so hope makes sense