Will Product Help Speed Up Cycle?

[dalios]

will this product help speed up my cycle as explained in my last post about no nitrates still after 6weeks and using safestart wondered if anyone has used this or any info at all on this,
 
from tetra about £4 for 10
 
Info-
 
TETRA BACTOZYM

Tetra Bactozym
 
10 capsule pack.
 
Speeds up the maturation of new aquarium filters.

- Unique, two way action which removes harmful waste and speeds up filter maturation

- Stimulates the decomposition of uneaten fish food using naturally occurring enzymes

- Creates ideal conditions for the rapid development of filter bacteria, by coating the filter in a artificial slime layer

- Helps to avoid the accumulation of harmful pollutants during the early stages of setting up your aquarium

Application add Bactozym to all new filters, and after cleaning established filters. for new aquariums, add 2 capsules per 100 litres of aquarium water, placing the capsules directly into the filter.Repeat every 7 days. After cleaning the filter,add 1 capsule per 100 litres off aquarium water.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

Imo, no. The product they have for that is called Safe Start.

 

[Ch4rlie]

Imo, no. The product they have for that is called Safe Start.

 
Even Tetra Safe Start is not guaranteed to work either due to various factors, shelf life, storage, handling, etc but IMO TSS is second best product to buy online or from LFS available for cycling start on correct bacterias.
 
The BEST method by far is obtaining mature filter media from another tank you may have or from a friend or family member who have had a established tank running for a while.

 

[TwoTankAmin]

I have to disagree with the idea that seeding from another tank is the best method, it is merely one method. Here is a copy of the part in the about to be submitted fish-in cycling rescue article. Note is is stated with the intended goal of getting an uncycled tank with fish in it cycled ASAP, instantly if possible. This is different than just doing a jump start, However, the advantages and disadvantages of each still apply for the most part.
 

Bottled Bacteria vs Donated Bacteria From An Established Tank
There are advantages and disadvantages for either method of adding bacteria:
[SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] Bottled bacteria will cost more than + donated bacteria from cycled tanks which is usually free or sent for the cost of shipping.
+ Bottled bacteria will usually be easier to find than enough [SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] donated bacteria laden items from cycled tanks. It may take more than one source for this.
+ Bottled bacteria should be more accurate in terms of knowing what you add being sufficient to do the job. There is no way to know beforehand how much [SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] donated bacteria you may be getting from other tanks. This does not mean one cannot get enough, you might even get more than you need.
+ Bottled bacteria should always be disease free, the same cannot be said of [SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] donated items from cycled tanks.
[SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] Bottled bacteria can be mishandled or out of date rendering it either dead or virtually useless. It is not a 100% guaranteed solution. + Donated bacteria should normally be live, especially if not shipped.
+ Donated bacteria will likely include some of the other non-cycling related bacteria which will also establish over time in a tank. [SIZE=16pt]-[/SIZE] Bottled bacteria usually won’t have these other bacteria included.

 
Just as bottled bacteria can be mishandled and fail to work, so can media from cycled tanks especially when it doesn't come form tanks nearby.

 

[Ch4rlie]

I have to disagree with the idea that seeding from another tank is the best method, it is merely one method. 
 
Just as bottled bacteria can be mishandled and fail to work, so can media from cycled tanks especially when it doesn't come form tanks nearby.

 
At the risk of starting a whole debate about the merits of both bottled and established media, lets agree that either methods will work fine provided it does the ultimate goal, cycles your tank FISHLESSLY and quickly.
 
Regardless on which may be the best, hopefully the end result is the same. 

  

 

[dalios]

See im not sure if it is the safestart that has not worked or my test readings are not correct as the api is a cheap kit so never know.
 
My fish all seem fine at the moment all lively eating as they should so i dont know where to go from here didnt know if them capsule Tetra Bactozym will work or help at all? is it worth getting them and giving them a go or not to bother (thoughts anyone?)
 
Want to get my tank sorted so i can go get more fish, be grateful for any advice.
 
Also what does IMO stand for?
 
Also i can not get hold of any filter media from another tank i have no friends or family with a tank at all.

 

[Ch4rlie]

Might be worth investing in the API liquid test kit as they're more accurate than the paper strip dip kit. That way you may ge more reliable readings.
 
Don't think Tetra Bactozym is worth getting.
 
As already mentioned, Tetra Safe Start would be a better bet, or Dr Tim's One and Only Nitrifying Bacteria is a decent product too. These two are the only ones I would really recommend as bacteria starters or for cycling a tank quicker.
 
IMO is short for In My Opinion 
 
Keep an eye on your fish for any signs of gasping or red gills, also on water parameters and do water changes accordingly. 

 

[rms]

I read somewhere (I tried looking for it again and can't find it....) that a chemical, not product, can be added to a fishless cycle that adds nitrites to your tank, much the same as we add ammonia. The text claimed to speed up the cycle as it kick starts the second wave of bacteria that feeds on nitrites. So instead of waiting for the bacteria to digest ammonia and turn it into nitrite, you already have nitrite at the same time as ammonia. I really wish I could find it again, but it was one of those nights where you're glued for hours and you leave your computer feeling like your eyes might just pop out!!
 
I would question it though. It would be common knowledge otherwise, IMO 

 
IMO - In my opinion
 
You might come across IME - In my experience...

 

[TwoTankAmin]

You remembered the article wrong. You would have to start with the nitrite and no ammonia. Once you had some nitrite bacs established, you would stop adding nitrite and switch to ammonia. But this would not be faster than seeding a tank with bottled bacteria or bacteria from a cycled tank.
 
If you add ammonia and nitrite at the same time you will end up with way to much nitrite and that would kill the cycle. To pull it off you would have to find and buy the appropriate nitrite source, then be testing a number of times a day and likely be doing dilulted nitrite testing. By the time you factor in the cost and the extra work, it would make way more sense to buy some Dr. Tims One and Only and get fully cycled in about a week.
 
This is one of those ideas that works better on paper than in practice

 

[rms]

I was hoping you'd have something to say on this TTA

 

[dalios]

Might be worth investing in the API liquid test kit as they're more accurate than the paper strip dip kit. That way you may ge more reliable readings.
 
Don't think Tetra Bactozym is worth getting.
 
As already mentioned, Tetra Safe Start would be a better bet, or Dr Tim's One and Only Nitrifying Bacteria is a decent product too. These two are the only ones I would really recommend as bacteria starters or for cycling a tank quicker.
 
IMO is short for In My Opinion 
 
Keep an eye on your fish for any signs of gasping or red gills, also on water parameters and do water changes accordingly. 

i do have the api liquid test kit all in date but not sure if the tests are reading right.
 
Also used tetra safe start when i first set up my tank and read the thread on here and did exactly as it said, i got a big bottle of the safestart added the right amount on the bottle plus a little extra then which left me about half a bottle left a week or so then added the rest, after 2 weeks done weekly water changes about 25%
 
Thanks for all the info people just dont know where to go from here really, dont seem to be any signs of fish being ill or not active they all seem fine at the moment and not far off 7weeks in from first adding the fish.
 
What should i do from now?
 
Wait to see nitrates on liquid kit then add fish or can i add fish when and as i feel? If i did add some fish would it affect the cycle at all?

 

[looking-glass]

ive not heard of bactozym before but ive always used safestart - i think its better than not using it as at least you have some bacteria straight away to get the cycle going