Who needs a laugh?

[Rusty_Shackleford]

Here ya go...

"Water is alive and it modifies itself to meet the needs of it's inhabitants"

I guess that means if my tap water is pH 8.2 and GH of 16 out of the tap, when I put discus in the tank the water magically becomes 5.5 pH and 2 GH.
Now guess which YouTube fraud spewed this nonsense.

 

[GaryE]

I cannot guess, but I'd love to know. The choice of idiot gurus on youtube fish sites is vast and rich.

We know the rocks in a tank are alive, and if we talk to them and ask them politely, they can "sit" and even "stay".

 

[sharkweek178]

Let's test this out. Put a clownfish in a freshwater tank. Does the water magically adapt to the clownfish's needs?

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

2:50 mark, but keep watching because he immediately contradicts himself.


What a moron.

 

[AJ356]

Father Fish says fish can be happy and healthy in any water, and that we should just use whatever water happens to come out of our taps. If it's rock hard water and we want to keep discus, German blue rams, or wild altum angels, so be it. Not sure if he has specifically mentioned wild altums...

He also says to leave your lights on for 24 hours a day for 2 weeks when setting up a new tank, with fish in. No mention of sunglasses for the fish, or at least an eye mask for the fish for the 10 hours or so they would expect darkness

Here's the kicker. I find his videos super relaxing. But I don't watch them for advice. I watch them before bed sometimes, they almost have a sedative effect on me, because the tanks looks so nice, but the advice contradicts most things I have learned (and trust) in the hobby.

I agree that probably 95% of standard Fishkeepers (not the upper echelon elite of us on here lol), probably overfeed our fish, but he often seems to argue for not feeding Fish at all, and just letting them live off the fat of the land in the aquarium. I love the sound of that, but not easy to achieve maybe? Hugely dependent on species I guess. Some fish do live off just the algae etc.

He doesnt seem to break it down into different type of fish. It would appear All fish can reach Fish heaven/utopia living the Father Fish way

 

[AJ356]

I think he also advises about a 10% water change if something crazy happens and half your fish start dying.

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

I think he also advises about a 10% water change if something crazy happens and half your fish start dying.

How do they not all die with those methods?

 

[WhistlingBadger]

How do they not all die with those methods?

They do! Then you get to buy new fish! Problem solved!

But it's important to realize that not all fish are the same, molecularly. There are three legged fish, and two legged fish. The three legged fish are stable and don't tip over, but the two legged fish sort of roll around on top of the three legged ones.

And that's why fish are so slippery. They did a study that proved this.

 

[GaryE]

How do they not all die with those methods?

If they die, it's off camera. So they aren't really dead!

Plus when I discussed with a fellow the same age who had a different but similar user name and said he was starting a youtube channel, on a past forum, he simply refused to answer any questions like that. All fish could live in all water because he didn't know what the fish I asked about as examples were. He refused to consider species. They were all just fish to him. He clearly had no idea what anything was beyond a small number of fish he'd kept and that had survived his attentions.

I'm assuming if they didn't survive, they somehow weren't really fish. They were other things. And if he didn't know them (my examples were fish that could be found in any good independent fishstore) they didn't matter. As for water, he refused to discuss the concept that anyone could have different tapwater than what he had at his house.

He was one difficult man to try to have a conversation with. He had complete faith. No fact could shake him from what he'd decided was true.

You can be profoundly ignorant of basic things 90% of the people who have ever posted here know, but if you present with supreme confidence, you can be a star.

 

[AJ356]

How do they not all die with those methods?

The problem for father Fish is that if he did a big water change and it solved a problem, some of his disicples would then break free from the mothership, think for themselves, and start doing respectable levels of water changes perhaps. It would be like the film Terminator. The followers of. Father Fish would become "Self aware"

 

[TwoTankAmin]

You people do realize that some older folks do get senile or contract some form of dementia?

I am old, but so far my only problem is I was born somewhat nuts. Apparently I never outgrew that. Maybe it is genetic? More likely it was due the fact my mother had pneumonia twice during the pregnancy and had a fever which peaked at 104F. I was told my parents friends used to refer to me as the baked apple before I was born.

p.s. I had two heater failures where one of the tank heaters got stuck full on. It was a 40 breeder and when I spotted a problem the temp was 104F (40C) and the rummy nose tetras were balls of much in the floating plants. The pair of discus were also dead, one was stuck to the filter intake and had changed color and the other one was rotting in the floating plants. But the 5 Hypancistrus L450 plecos growing out were all alive and hunkered down in caves on the tank bottom. About 4 or 5 weeks later they spawned for the first time.

 

[GaryE]

Who among us doesn't wish water changes weren't needed? If you keep fish, that's the dream!
All the researching, adjusting, tinkering, thinking - that's work. And work and enjoyment aren't connected to many people. They make excellent followers of people who say what they want to hear.
@WhistlingBadger works very hard to create those bows out of wood he identifies as good on his family hikes. The bows don't make themselves. @Back in the fold sets running goals, and goes out there in all kinds of weather and runs. Other members are medical researchers, using energy to learn and share important practices that take... work. What we put into the things we care about matters to us, as artists, musicians, researchers, craftspeople, learners for life...
It doesn't to a lot of people, and no one ever became poor catering to them. Father Fish, our esteemed patriarch, has that figured out. Is he a snake oil salesman?
Who knows. Maybe he changes 50% of his tankwater every 3 days. It's the internet.

The bottom line is you can't shake his following without playing trolling games. So he has to be ignored. He bugs me, but so do a lot of more consequential people.

 

[Rusty_Shackleford]

The problem for father Fish is that if he did a big water change and it solved a problem, some of his disicples would then break free from the mothership, think for themselves, and start doing respectable levels of water changes perhaps. It would be like the film Terminator. The followers of. Father Fish would become "Self aware"

The next step for his followers is to get some track suits and drink the kool aid.

 

[AJ356]

Father Fish, our esteemed patriarch, has that figured out. Is he a snake oil salesman?
Who knows. Maybe he changes 50% of his tankwater every 3 days. It's the internet.

This reminds me of a show that maybe only us across the pond will know

 

[anewbie]

Here ya go...

"Water is alive and it modifies itself to meet the needs of it's inhabitants"

I guess that means if my tap water is pH 8.2 and GH of 16 out of the tap, when I put discus in the tank the water magically becomes 5.5 pH and 2 GH.
Now guess which YouTube fraud spewed this nonsense.

Look the fellow made a slight misphrase both otherwise the statement is correct and not funny. What he meant to say is:

"The inhabitants are alive and either meet the needs of the water or parish."