Who Fancies Playing "id The Plant" With Me?

[N0body Of The Goat]

Yesterday afternoon was spent buying various plant cuttings/pots, which were then placed in the tank. However, I am clueless as to what I bought and therefore a little concerned about the positioing of one or two of them in the tank!

Without further a do, here are the pics...

Couple of these eye catchers front-middle. Leaves are almost heart shaped, with attractive white centre.Other plant has a leaf that looks decayed... Should I cut it off immediately behind ill leaf?

A general overview of the tank...

Am I anywhere close to "golden ratios?"

Oops, pic was done in portrait mode! The cuttings have practically no root system on them. The tips of the leaves look fluorescent today.

Little worried about this species. It has a fibrous extensive root system, which I hope means it will anchor itself to bogwood? Placed a small plant in substrate, rest are on feature double bogwood.

Has one or two mini roots on most strands. Looks lovely, hope it survives!

This one was simply labelled as "Anubias." Having looked at pics, I think its a "nana." Both of these are placed on the substrate floor, with the topmost bit of the root system (rhizome?) exposed. Ok?

A group of lighter green, striped leaved plants. No obvious roots at mo, hope they will grow into the Deponitmix and Congo sand.

Bought two of these, apparently they are "carpet forming" when they do well. Bit concerned about brown speckles over most leaves, hopefully Deponitmix will re-nourish plants?

A group of darker green plants, again with the stripe pattern. A different species, or could the paler green ones be less healthy versions of these? Suspect they are different, were in seperate row.

• Are any of these going to need additonal CO2 to survive? Could I get away with "easycarb" or similar, rather than spending out on a CO2 system? Should I add this and let it do magic before adding first fish?
• Are those fine leaved plants fine for bogwood fixing? If so, will they naturally anchor by just generally tieing the plant down, or do I need to wrap the cotton exactly where I want the roots to go?
• Any concerns over the unhealthy plants?
• Will 108W of T5 lighting be enough?

Thanks for any input, I've gone down the real plant route for the benefit of future fish, my gardening expertise amounts to being proud of 5 month old catii that are still alive!

 

[MBOU]

I cant answer most of your questions but i can be the unfortunate bearer of bad news...

Plants in photos 4,5,8 & 10 aren't true aquatics, the yellow and green variegated and the green and white variegated plants are a species of Dracenia and the dark short grass is ophiogon japonica...

 

[jacko32]

4th pic down that looks like a fern is none aquatic and will rot under water

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Hmm, got me worried now, spent ~£40 on this bunch of plants from Aquajardin.

 

[ian]

right then...

1.unsure...?not aquatic?
2.tank looks good
3.looks close to golden
4.?Hygrophila difformis?
5.some king of Crypt
6.Cabomba
7.Anubias nana, needs to be on a bit of wood or lava rock (any rock)
8.Non aquatic
9.?looks like some king of Java fearn?
10.Non aquatic

 

[Ryefish]

did they advertise the plants as aquatic?!

 

[MBOU]

1.Pretty sure not aquatic though taller than the one im thinking of, sure its name began with 'S', will keep looking... Syngonium Sp... Non True

2.Get those non true aquatics out and replaced with something that wont rot down and you'll be spot on!!

3.Looking good, will look great when plants get growing and bulk out, not going for any tall plants?

4. Non True Aquatic - Umbrella Fern aka Selanginella wildenowii

5. Non True Aquatic -Ophiogon Japonica

6. True Aquatic - Cabomba (fast growing but does shed lots of 'bits')

7. True Aquatic - Anubias Sp, needs to be attatched to a bit of wood so it can take root, use an elastic band or something temporarily...

8.Non True Aquatic - Dracaena Deremensis

9. Photo not quite clear enouth to tell...

10.Non True Aquatic - cant remember latin name but often goes by the name of 'song of india' or 'spider plant'.

Thats the best i can do...

As for the EasyCarbo, personally i prefer it to big complicated and extortionately expensive CO2 systems, just dont overdose it!! In all fairness, i only ever used it once or twice a week, not every day and the plants went wild...

If you want plants to attatch to wood, you are looking for:

Anubias (which you have)
Java Fern

Some nice (IMO) taller plants:

Aponogeton Crispus or A. Ulvaceaus (sp)
Vallis
Echinodorus Blehri (Amazon Sword)
Cryptocoryne Balansae
Elodea
Egeria Densa

Nice Short Plants that are fairly easy and common in shops:

Lileaopsis Novazealandae
Eleocharis (gets to about 15cm tall though)

 

[three-fingers]

If they said they were aquatic, try get your money back. You did get a couple of aquatics though.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Thanks for the extra feedback overnight.

I'm wondering if the fern is Malayan Aqua Fern, it certainly looks similar to a few pics I've seen. http/animal-world.com/encyclo/fresh/plants/FernsMosses/MalayanAquaFern.php

If the fine-leaved grass-like plant is Ophiogon Japonica, do you think it would survive if I secured it to the top of the bogwood stem, so that most of the leaves are above the water? Or should I simply find a plant pot or two for it and let my better half add it to her new found gardening hobby?

When I get back from the round today, I will move both the Anubias nana plants and attach them to where the main bunch of the Japonica is currently fixed to the bogwood.

Pic 1 might be Syngonium podophyllum? If no, another non-aquatic


This whole situation has really annoyed me. All the plants were on show fully submersed in four different tanks. From previous fleeting glances at them during visits to see the fish (which look great), I would say that at least most of the plants I bought have been in those tanks for weeks. I'm going to ring the shop after work and discuss taking at least some of the non-aquatics (my better half may be happy to grow some of them out of water) back and replacing them with definite aquatic species...

 

[Jamepsss]

This whole situation has really annoyed me. All the plants were on show fully submersed in four different tanks. From previous fleeting glances at them during visits to see the fish (which look great), I would say that at least most of the plants I bought have been in those tanks for weeks. I'm going to ring the shop after work and discuss taking at least some of the non-aquatics (my better half may be happy to grow some of them out of water) back and replacing them with definite aquatic species...

I did exactly the same a few months ago. Spent £20 on 'fountain' plants (looked similar to your photo 5) and 'wheat' plants (looked similar to photo 10).


Seeing them in a plant tank, in an aquarist shop you have no reason to think anything other than they are suitable for your tank. It's very annoying when you realise they aren't. I ended up binning them.

 

[ian]

most aquatic plants 'flop' when out of water.

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Thanks for all the help in solving these plant mysteries.

Just spoken to the shop manager and he offered to take back the non-aquatics and sort me out with true aquatics to suit my hard alkaline tap water.

The Fern is "Borneo Fern" which is aquatic.

The shield-shaped leaves with white centre is "Goosefoot" which is non-aquatic.
The striped leaf plants (both varieties) are non-aquatic.
The fountain-like plant is non-aquatic.

Thanks again, being a plant novice, I would have been none the wiser about their cause of death in a couple of months.

 

[jacko32]

Thanks for all the help in solving these plant mysteries.

Just spoken to the shop manager and he offered to take back the non-aquatics and sort me out with true aquatics to suit my hard alkaline tap water.

The Fern is "Borneo Fern" which is aquatic.

The shield-shaped leaves with white centre is "Goosefoot" which is non-aquatic.
The striped leaf plants (both varieties) are non-aquatic.
The fountain-like plant is non-aquatic.

Thanks again, being a plant novice, I would have been none the wiser about their cause of death in a couple of months.

have you googled borneo fern then as all the info i can find is conflicting some says its a terrarium plant and others say its aquatic also all the pictures i can find of borneo ferns dont look like the pic you posted

 

[N0body Of The Goat]

Thought I would report in with my successful visit back to the LFS...

The manager happily accepted all non-aquatics back, including the Borneo Fern

After umming are arring all week, I decided to get a relatively basic CO2 starter kit!

I came away with a "Dennerle Einweg 300."

The true-aquatics that replaced the decorative/rotting plants are
Ludwigia repens
Alternanthera reineckii 'Pink'
Ludwigia glandulosa
Echinodorus 'Rosé'
Alternanthera reineckii ''roseafolia''
Pogostemon helferi
Microsorum pteropus (large plant broken up into 3 sections, fixed to bogwood)
[A free floating plant that customers get when buying anything in May, need to look up its name and and a pic to this thread]

The tank water is a little cloudy right now after planting, not to mention I have sucessfully clogged up a second top white Juwel filter sponge in the space of a week, having not turned off the pump while planting!

I shall take some fresh pics tomorrow, when things have settled down and I have had time to set up the CO2 system.