White Fluff Again, And Lumps

[Donuts]

Tank size: 110 liters
pH: 7.8
ammonia: 0
nitrite: 0
nitrate: 10
kH: what is this?
gH: and this?
tank temp: 24/25 C

Fish Symptoms (include full description including lesion, color, location, fish behavior):

Black Molly -
We have 3 black mollies, only one of them is showing symptoms. A while ago (a month or more), one of the Mollies had fluffy looking white bits on her body, and one popeye. We successfully treated the tank with internal bacteria meds & Premafix. Everything was fine until yesterday. One of the female mollies (not sure if its the same one) has now got the same thing again, only worse, and two popeyes. Gonna get some Primafix tomorrow. What is wrong with her do you think?

One of the Neon Tetras has developed a couple of small white lumps just on its tail in the last two days - what could this be?

And, one of the blue tetras has got a lump growing on his back - this has been there for a month or more - its under the skin, and it is getting gradually bigger all the time. He doesnt seem to be showing any other signs of being sick - eats well etc. Any ideas?

Volume and Frequency of water changes:
10% water change every week

Food: flake food and the occasional pea, catfish pellets & pleco tablets (not all at once)

Chemical Additives or Media in your tank: none

Tank inhabitants: 3 black mollies, 5 glowlight tetras, 4 blue tetras, 4 neon tetras, 1 albino cory, 1 common pleco

Recent additions to your tank (living or decoration): none

Exposure to chemicals: none


Help appreciated!!!

 

[WILDER]

What a mess I would just try anti internal bacteria med by interpet and pimafix again.
How long did you use the meds last time,

 

[Donuts]

I know! I can't believe it - it was going really well there for a while, and the stats are fine, and have been consistently.
All the other fish seem to be fine, and even the sick looking ones show no signs of being off their food, or sulking, or flicking or rubbing etc.
Used the meds for 7 days last time.
Any ideas what the different things are?

 

[WILDER]

Lumpy bellies on neon tetra can be ntd but yours it on its tail.
Make sure the beginning of the tail doesn't start to go white or bleached out as that can be a sign of ntd,.
When I had neons it started in the tail region the colour change.
The lumps can be bacterial to tumours.
Tumours are usually hard looking, bacterial ones are usually filled with fluid,.

Just want to make sure on the neon do the lumps look like a cluster of small eggs.

 

[Donuts]

Hmm, the tail doesnt look bleached, its still the same colour as the others. Hard to say about the lumps, but it could be described as a small cluster of eggs alright, or possibly more fungusy white stuff.
The lump on the other fish looks hard, and has been growing slowly - looks like a tumour.

 

[WILDER]

Does it have fungus on the lumps.
Look under lymphocystis
http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm

 

[Donuts]

Very hard to tell - the lumps are in a cluster just around the tail, they are white. Hard to see if they are just white lumps, or if there is fungus on them.
I sincerely hope it isnt Lymphocystis after reading that!!!!

 

[WILDER]

Sad to say if there in a cluster it sounds like it, get you some more info.

 

[WILDER]

The lumps will join up to form a cauliflower.
How many lumps are there on the neons tail.
http/www.aquarticles.com/articles/manage...mphocystis.html

 

[Donuts]

5 or 6 small ones perhaps? Hard to count!
Am i better off getting him out quick before the lumps burst and affect all the other fish?

 

[WILDER]

Yes I would issolate him.
Though the damage might of already been done as your fish have bacterial infections.
I can't make the pics out on the neon do you think it sounds like lymphocyctis.

 

[Donuts]

Not sure - just looking at the drawing/photo of the "goggle-eye"on the page of the last link you posted -
The picture shows the lumps on the actual tail itself - on the neon, the lumps are clustered around the base of the tail, not on the tail itself.
Not sure if that makes any difference?

 

[WILDER]

Mainly on fins but can be on the body of the fish.
With your fish having a cluster of these lumps I wouldn't rule it out.

 

[Donuts]

Looking at him again, it is possible that it is a tumour like lump at the base of his tail with a couple of fluffy fungus spots on it...

 

[WILDER]

I would still issolate the sick fish to be on the safe side.
I would use the bacterial med and pimafix.
Can you get a better shot of the neon with the lumps.