White Crust On Fish

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i have noticed one of my neons with a white crust on the tip of its nose and another one with a with crust on the edge of its tail.

can any one help me and tell me if this is a type of fungal infection?? :blush:
 
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing.
 
Size of tank in gallons or litres.
How many fish and which type.
Water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.
Any signs of flicking and rubbing.

my tank is a jewel 190 lt corner tank
i have 1common pleco, 3 clown loaches, 4 zebra danios, 4 silver tips, 4 black & orange neons, 2 black widow tetras, 10 blue & red neons, 1 blue gourami, 2 bottom workers (don't know what they are) & 3 orange & black platy's.

my waters stats are
nitrate 0
nitrite 10
gh 8
kh 6
ph 7.2

don't know ammonia my test kit dosent give me that.

no signs of flicking or rubbing it dosent seem to be bothering them. its not like whitespot it looks like actual small white crusts.
 
Your tank abit on the over stocked side.
Have you got your nitrite, and nitrate mixed up as nitrite should be 0.
Not sure about the crust on the neon, have heard of it but forgotten what it means.
Does it look like a waxy crust.
The white crust on the tail does it resemble a cauliflower.
 
Your tank abit on the over stocked side.
Have you got your nitrite, and nitrate mixed up as nitrite should be 0.
Not sure about the crust on the neon, have heard of it but forgotten what it means.
Does it look like a waxy crust.


Could be neon disease (saddleback on guppies)

I think they must have thier nirite and nitrate mixed surely.
 
Your tank abit on the over stocked side.
Have you got your nitrite, and nitrate mixed up as nitrite should be 0.
Not sure about the crust on the neon, have heard of it but forgotten what it means.
Does it look like a waxy crust.

is nitrate not (no3) mine is 10
and nitrite (no2) mine is 0

no not like waxing crust just more like a small growth

i never realized i was over stocked thoght my tank was big enough
 
Here is what i think it is.............

Disease Type: sporozoan

Organism: Pleistophora hyphessobryconis

Names: Neon Tetra Disease, Pleistophora

Description: Neon Tetra disease is more common than many aquarium enthusiasts realize, and affects species beyond neon tetras. Named after the fish that it was first identified in, the disease strikes members of the tetra family most often. However, other popular families of aquarium fish are not immune.

Cichlids such as Angelfish, and Cyprinids such as Rasboras and Barbs, also fall victim to the disease. Even the common Goldfish can become infected. Interestingly enough, Cardinal tetras are resistant to the ravages of Neon Tetra disease. Caused by the sporozoan, Pleistophora hyphessobryconis, the disease is known for its rapid and high mortality rate among neons. To date there is no known cure, the only 'treatment' being the immediate removal of diseased fish to preserve the remaining fish.
The disease cycle begins when parasitic spores enter the fish after it consumes infected material, such as the bodies of dead fish, or live food such as tubifex, which may serve as intermediate hosts.
Once in the intestinal tract, the newly hatched embryos burrow through the intestinal wall and produce cysts within the muscle tissue. Muscles bearing the cysts begin to die, and the necrotic tissue becomes pale, eventually turning white in color.

Symptoms:


Restlessness

Fish begins to lose coloration

As cysts develop, body may become lumpy

Fish has difficulty swimming

In advanced cases spine may become curved

Secondary infections such as fin rot and bloating

During the initial stages, the only symptom may be restlessness, particularly at night. Often the first thing an owner will notice is that the affected fish no longer school with the others. Eventually swimming becomes more erratic, and it becomes quite obvious that the fish is not well.
As the disease progresses, affected muscle tissue begins to turn white, generally starting within the color band and areas along the spine. As additional muscle tissue is affected, the pale coloration expands. Damage to the muscles can cause curvature or deformation of the spine, which may cause the fish to have difficulty in swimming. It is not unusual for the body of the fish to have a lumpy appearance as the cysts deform the muscles.
Rotting of the fins, especially the caudal fin, is not uncommon. However, this is due to secondary infection rather than a direct result of the disease itself. Bloating is another secondary infection.


Treatment:


None, separate or euthanize diseased fish

There is no known cure. To ensure all fish are not lost, remove diseased fish from the tank. Some species, such as Angelfish, may live for quite some time. However, they should be separated from uninfected fish to avoid spreading the disease.
Prevention:
Quarantine new fish for two weeks

Maintain high water quality

Do not purchase from a tank with ill fish

The best prevention is to avoid purchasing sick fish, and to maintain high water. Carefully observe the suppliers fish. Do not purchase any fish from tanks where there are sick, dying, or dead fish present. Fish that do not school, or hang apart from the others, should be suspect.
 
Growths on fins that look like a cauliflower or a cluster of eggs can be lymthocystis.
Neon tetra desease usually starts of as bleaching in the red stripe area or a milky subtance on the red stripe area.
Lump that go to a point in the tummy region with ntd.
 
Growths on fins that look like a cauliflower or a cluster of eggs can be lymthocystis.
Neon tetra desease usually starts of as bleaching in the red stripe area or a milky subtance on the red stripe area.
Lump that go to a point in the tummy region with ntd.

damn it sry, i read the post wrong, it thought it was on body, just read again properly (glasses out)
 
Well at least youre trying steady.
Had ntd in one of my tank years ago and its awful.
There loads of symtoms to ntd as it progresses, blacking linning around the red area.
The blue area can go like a yellow shine like velvet.
Dropsy and popeye in later states, they all show different symtoms.

I would just add some melafix to see if that clears it up.
 
Here is what i think it is.............

Disease Type: sporozoan

Organism: Pleistophora hyphessobryconis

Names: Neon Tetra Disease, Pleistophora

Description: Neon Tetra disease is more common than many aquarium enthusiasts realize, and affects species beyond neon tetras. Named after the fish that it was first identified in, the disease strikes members of the tetra family most often. However, other popular families of aquarium fish are not immune.

Cichlids such as Angelfish, and Cyprinids such as Rasboras and Barbs, also fall victim to the disease. Even the common Goldfish can become infected. Interestingly enough, Cardinal tetras are resistant to the ravages of Neon Tetra disease. Caused by the sporozoan, Pleistophora hyphessobryconis, the disease is known for its rapid and high mortality rate among neons. To date there is no known cure, the only 'treatment' being the immediate removal of diseased fish to preserve the remaining fish.
The disease cycle begins when parasitic spores enter the fish after it consumes infected material, such as the bodies of dead fish, or live food such as tubifex, which may serve as intermediate hosts.
Once in the intestinal tract, the newly hatched embryos burrow through the intestinal wall and produce cysts within the muscle tissue. Muscles bearing the cysts begin to die, and the necrotic tissue becomes pale, eventually turning white in color.

Symptoms:


Restlessness

Fish begins to lose coloration

As cysts develop, body may become lumpy

Fish has difficulty swimming

In advanced cases spine may become curved

Secondary infections such as fin rot and bloating

During the initial stages, the only symptom may be restlessness, particularly at night. Often the first thing an owner will notice is that the affected fish no longer school with the others. Eventually swimming becomes more erratic, and it becomes quite obvious that the fish is not well.
As the disease progresses, affected muscle tissue begins to turn white, generally starting within the color band and areas along the spine. As additional muscle tissue is affected, the pale coloration expands. Damage to the muscles can cause curvature or deformation of the spine, which may cause the fish to have difficulty in swimming. It is not unusual for the body of the fish to have a lumpy appearance as the cysts deform the muscles.
Rotting of the fins, especially the caudal fin, is not uncommon. However, this is due to secondary infection rather than a direct result of the disease itself. Bloating is another secondary infection.


Treatment:


None, separate or euthanize diseased fish

There is no known cure. To ensure all fish are not lost, remove diseased fish from the tank. Some species, such as Angelfish, may live for quite some time. However, they should be separated from uninfected fish to avoid spreading the disease.
Prevention:
Quarantine new fish for two weeks

Maintain high water quality

Do not purchase from a tank with ill fish

The best prevention is to avoid purchasing sick fish, and to maintain high water. Carefully observe the suppliers fish. Do not purchase any fish from tanks where there are sick, dying, or dead fish present. Fish that do not school, or hang apart from the others, should be suspect.

thanks very much for the info i will remove the 2 neons and see if any more get it.

Growths on fins that look like a cauliflower or a cluster of eggs can be lymthocystis.
Neon tetra desease usually starts of as bleaching in the red stripe area or a milky subtance on the red stripe area.
Lump that go to a point in the tummy region with ntd.

damn it sry, i read the post wrong, it thought it was on body, just read again properly (glasses out)
so what is that and can it be treated??

Well at least youre trying steady.
Had ntd in one of my tank years ago and its awful.
There loads of symtoms to ntd as it progresses, blacking linning around the red area.
The blue area can go like a yellow shine like velvet.
Dropsy and popeye in later states, they all show different symtoms.

I would just add some melafix to see if that clears it up.

ok will do wilder thank you
 
Just keep an eye on him.
Add the melafix if you have some to see if that clears it up.
I would only use half dose with neons.
Good luck.
 
How the fish doing tonight.
 

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