Which Tank For 2-3 Goldfish?

[nikkifro8994]

Hello. I want to get 2-3 goldfish. I am looking at 30 and 40 US gallon tanks. I want to find the best setup for the lowest price. Here are the ones that I'm looking at.

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Kit Includes:

• 29 gallon glass aquarium with plastic frame
• 30" full hood with flourescent light
• Top Fin 30 Power Filter with cartridge
• Adjustable 100w UL Heater
• Strip thermometer
• 6" net
• Fish food sample
• Water care sample
• Bacteria starter sample
• Guide to aquarium set-up and care
• Dimensions: 30-3/16"L x 12-1/2"W x 18-3/4"H
• $104.99

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Includes:

• Size 37 Glass Aquarium
• Top Fin Power Filter 40 with Cartridge
• 30" Fluorescent Light with Bulb
• Glass Canopy
• Adjustable 200 Watt Heater
• Strip Thermometer
• Fish Food Sample
• Water Conditioner Sample
• Water Testing Vial
• Dimensions: 30"W x 12"D x 22"H; 37 Gallon
• $119.99

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• 29 Gallon scratch-resistant glass aquarium is easy to clean
• Stylized hood
• Penguin 150 BioWheel power filter
• LED lighting system
• Submersible aquarium heater
• Thermometer
• Fish net
• Power: Low-voltage AC adapter
• Rite-Size™ B filter cartridges
• Flake Food Sample
• Water Conditioner Sample
• $134.99

http/www.petsmart....%26amp%3B+Bowls
Kit Includes:

• 55 gallon glass aquarium with plastic frame
• Two (24") full hoods with flourescent lights
• Top Fin 60 Power Filter with 2 cartridges
• Adjustable 200w UL heater
• Strip thermometer
• 6" net
• Fish food sample
• Water care sample
• Bacteria starter sample
• Guide to aquarium set-up and care
• Dimensions: 48-1/4"L x 12-3/4"W x 20-13/16"H
• $159.99

Or I can buy everything I need separately

• 29 Gallon Aquarium, Full Fluorescent Hood (lamp included). Dimensions: 30 1/4"L x 12 1/2"W x 18 3/4"H. $85.99
• Aqua Clear Power Filters by Hagen for 30-70 gallons $51.99
• Top Fin® Floating Glass Aquarium Thermometer $2.99
• Total of $140.97

Plus decor

• Top Fin® Aquarium Gravel - 25 lbs. $16.99
• Tetra Whisper Air Pump for up to 40 gallons. $22.49
• Top Fin® Airline Tubing 6' Long. $2.99
• Top Fin® Volcano Bubbler Aquarium Decoration $29.99
• Total of $72.46

Which of these options would you recommend? How many fancy goldfish can I keep in each setup?

Nikki

 

[Fishy friend2]

The only one suitible for goldfish is the 55 IMO, because the ones that actually show he dimensions are the 37 and 29 and they are both 30 inches, which is too small for any type of fancy goldfish as most can get 8-10 inches long on average, so that means that they will be a whole 3rd of the tank wich is cruel, IMO

 

[Fishy friend2]

Fancy goldfish (Fancies)

Fantails

Description
Egg shape body with long doubled or short tail fins.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 14 inches/ 35.5cm
The average life span is 12 years.
32-90 degrees F/ zero-32 degrees C
Note; This was the starting point for all the fancy goldfish.

Moores

Description
A velvety black coloured fish with telescope eyes and an egg shaped body.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 25 years.
32-82 degrees F/ zero-28 degrees C
True moores are not available in any other colours.


Pearlscales

Description
Egg shaped goldfish but normally their mid region is much larger than most of the other egg shaped goldfish. The scales have a pearl raised appearance.
comments
They are not a hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 25 years.
32-82 degrees F/ zero-28 degrees C
Available in many colours.


The Oranda

Description
Egg shaped body with head growth (wen).
comments
The wen growth should be well developed. Fin length should be long and flowing.
Available in many colours.
They are fairly hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 25 years.
74 -78 degrees F/ 23-26 degrees C


The Ryukin

Description
Close looking to the fantail goldfish, but they have a hump back to them that starts just after the head of the goldfish.
comments
They are fairly hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches /25.4cm
The average life span is 25 years.
74 -78 degrees F/ 23-26 degrees C


The Telescope
Description
Egg shaped goldfish with telescope eyes.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 8 inches/ 20cm
The average life span is 25 years.
70-78 degrees F/ 21-26 degrees C

There are many different kinds of telescoped goldfish; they should have long flowing fins. They also come in many colours and different sized eyes.
Not to be confused with the Bubble eye.

The Pom-pon

Description
Egg shaped fish either with or without fins. The Pom-pon you see is the nostrils in excessive development. Some fish have it very lightly and others have very big ones.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 8 inches/ 20cm
The average life span is 25 years.
74 -78 degrees F/ 23-26 degrees C

The Demekin

Description
A cross between a Ryukin and a Telescope. They have a high arched back with telescoped eyes.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 20 years.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C


The Veiltail

Description
Long flowing fins that droops off the body. The fins look like a veil of a bride head dress. Body is an egged shaped and the colour of the fish comes in many colours.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 16 years.
70-78 degrees F/ 21-26 degrees C

The Eggfish

Description
Egg shaped goldfish, but this fish has long flowing fins. some people call them Phoenix Eggfish. There is no dorsal fin on this fish.
comments
They are not a hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 25 years.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C
A very rare fish to find.

The Lionhead
Description
Egg shaped goldfish, but its back is pretty much in a straight line with head growth on it. No dorsal fin on this fish.
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 8 inches/ 20cm
The average life span is 15 years.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C

The Ranchu

Description
Egg shaped goldfish, but its back is curved then you will see a tail tuck of 90 degrees with head or with out growth on it. No dorsal fin on this fish.
comments
They are a hardy fish and have the potential to reach 8inches/ 20cm
The average life span is 15 years.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C

The Celestial

Description
Egg shaped goldfish, but its eyes are pointing up words to the sky. No dorsal fin on this fish
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 10 inches/ 25.4cm
The average life span is 7 years.
78-80 degrees F/ 26-27 degrees C
The eyes start out normal and move as the fish matures. Rather delicate and sensitive to the cold.

The Bubble eye

Description
Egg shaped fish like the celestial with large, fluid-filled sacks under the eyes. These fish require special tanks with no sharp objects. No dorsal fin on this fish
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 6inches/ 15.2cm
The average life span is 10 years.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C
These bubbles are delicate and are easily damaged. They will repair themselves in time. Care should be given to tank decorations and other fish to prevent damage. Are best kept with other Bubble eye or Celestial

The Wakin

Description
Slender in body shape with a divided tail fin
comments
They are somewhat hardy fish and have the potential to reach 12 inches/ 30.5cm
The average life span is unknown.
70-74 degrees F/ 21-23 degrees C

Have I missed one? do tell.

All pictures, except Gibel carp, are used with the kind permission of the
Bristol Aquarists' Society

 

[nikkifro8994]

The only one suitible for goldfish is the 55 IMO, because the ones that actually show he dimensions are the 37 and 29 and they are both 30 inches, which is too small for any type of fancy goldfish as most can get 8-10 inches long on average, so that means that they will be a whole 3rd of the tank wich is cruel, IMO

How many can be in the 55? 4? or can I do 5? I would definitely add another filter so I would have double filtration.
Which type of goldfish would you recommend?

 

[Fishy friend2]

I would get 3-4 black moors, telescope eyes, egg fish, ranchu or , bubble eyes. Those are just some

 

[soybean]

I am firmly in the camp of 30 gallons for one fancy goldfish and at least an additional 10 gallons for each extra one. In a 55 gallon I would keep 3-4 of the smaller fancies, or 2, or 3 at a push, of the larger ones like moors, orandas and ryukins. I cannot stress enough how much mess they create and how big they can get.

On your other thread you mention shubunkins - these are no different from buying a comet or common and these too really belong in ponds. I would keep one in a 55 gallon. You may think I'm being stingy on the numbers but you should see how big they can get. They really need a lot of room to grow, however tiny they are when you get them. This is one of the types I have bred in a tank, before putting it in a pond - the fry also went in the pond and they are ENORMOUS now, I couldn't imagine having a properly fully grown adult goldfish in a tank now!

 

[soybean]

Also to add, the actual difference in dimensions between the 40 gall and 55 gall would be quite small, if that's what your mum is worrying about.

If you go for the 30 gallon, please only consider 1 fancy goldfish, or two of the smaller ones like raunchu if you really want more than one.

 

[Iiriva]

It's werid how tank sizes vary depending or where you live.

In Finland experts say you should have at least 300 liter tank for a single cold fish, anykind of type, and 100 per fish if there is any more of them... So based on my knowlidge, I'd say at least 500 liter tank.

 

[soybean]

It's werid how tank sizes vary depending or where you live.

In Finland experts say you should have at least 300 liter tank for a single cold fish, anykind of type, and 100 per fish if there is any more of them... So based on my knowlidge, I'd say at least 500 liter tank.

I like Finland's thinking, and quite agree!

 

[nikkifro8994]

I think I've convinced her. I just had to tell her that I'm getting rid of 2 tanks with 19 fish to get one tank with 3 or 4. I should be good. Now I have to sell the 10 gallons and the fish so that I gave the money to buy the tank and room to put it.

 

[Aquatic Hippo]

I have the first one. The 29 gallon Top Fin kit. I have a common and a fantail. I would say you need about 20 gallons for one, and 10 for an additional; as long as they are fancy. I bought my common before I knew they grew larger. If I did know, I probably would've gotten a Black Moore, Ryukin or Oranda.

 

[Keeper Of Cichlids]

I have the first one. The 29 gallon Top Fin kit. I have a common and a fantail. I would say you need about 20 gallons for one, and 10 for an additional; as long as they are fancy. I bought my common before I knew they grew larger. If I did know, I probably would've gotten a Black Moore, Ryukin or Oranda.

Are you planning on rehoming the common then?