Whats This On My Bnt

[julsifer]

i have three altogether and they've been flicking a bit and i had noticed they were a bit grey looking as in they had a grey film around them so i treated on monday with interprets anti slime and velvet and today (2 days later) have noticed this white mark.

doesnt look like columnaris its not fuzzy just white.

AMMONIA- 0
NITRITE- 0
NITRATE- 0

4 platys added today to stop my 2 males nipping each other.

not the best picture but if you can see he's got a white mark like a smudge on top. Also i haven't noticed any of the three BNt pooing and atleast ones anus is bit red.

 

[WILDER]

Any excess mucas on the fish body or gills.
Any signs of darting, laboured breathing or gasping.
Any red sores or red pin prick marks on the fish.

The white mark does it look tiny white spots or a dusting of talc.
Red inflamed anus can be constipation, dropsy, internal parasites.
Do any fish look bloated or thin.

 

[julsifer]

Any excess mucas on the fish body or gills. i thought they looked grey all over so treated with for the slime thing
Any signs of darting, laboured breathing or gasping. they do dart but it might because i am near the tank they're very fast with the food
Any red sores or red pin prick marks on the fish. nope

The white mark does it look tiny white spots or a dusting of talc. i'd say the talc one, since they used to have whitespot before i can tell it isnt that
Red inflamed anus can be constipation, dropsy, internal parasites. I am treating my molly with internal parasites (pooing white and stringy) in my quarantine tank so i can move them if you think they will cope with interprets anti internal meds
Do any fish look bloated or thin. a couple looked bloated slightly but as i say they havent pooed

 

[WILDER]

it could be columnaris to velvet. Fish can sometimes flick with columnaris.
How long have you been using the anti velvet and slime med.

What med did you use for internal parasites.

Look also under costia.

http/www.fish-disease.net/diseases.htm

This med for camallanous worms.
http/www.thegreenmachineaquatics.com/mal...ol%20001/198936

The anti internal bacteria med by interpet for a bacteria infection.

 

[julsifer]

it could be columnaris to velvet. Fish can sometimes flick with columnaris.
How long have you been using the anti velvet and slime med. I put the first dose in my main tank on monday after my weekly water change, my temp is at 26ºC is this ok or should it be raised for this treatment it doesnt say to do so on the instructions

What med did you use for internal parasites. For my molly atm in my quarantine tank i am using Interprets anti-internal bacteria

 

[WILDER]

If it is velvet it takes long and harder to get rid of velvet than whitespot.
If no improvements with the med in a few days get back to the board.

Your using the wrong med if you suspect internal parasites.
Anti internal bacteria med is for bacterial infections not internal parasites.

Get you some info on camallanous worms.


Camallanus



Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment:

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.

 

[julsifer]

ok will do.

Oh no i didn't realise it was the wrong meds i just thought pooing white stringy poo = internal, i didn't think of the parasite part, she's been hanging at the bottom of the tank these past few days not looking too good tbh theres no wonder!!!

 

[WILDER]

Long stringy white poo can be constipation, bacterial infection, internal parasites.

Signs of internal parasites are.
Long stringy white poo or clear mucas poo.
Worms prutruding from the anus.
Enlarged anus or red inflamed anus.
Sunken in belly.
Fish will look skinny or bloated.
Sometimes the fish will swim on its side.
Sometimes bent spine.

 

[julsifer]

Long stringy white poo can be constipation, bacterial infection, internal parasites.

Signs of internal parasites are.
Long stringy white poo or clear mucas poo.
Worms prutruding from the anus.
Enlarged anus or red inflamed anus.
Sunken in belly.
Fish will look skinny or bloated.
Sometimes the fish will swim on its side.
Sometimes bent spine.

ok its deffo internal parasites then she is thin looking too, I will get the meds you prescribed, do i need all of them?

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.

can you buy medicated food in most places? i have never seen any before.

thanks wilder

 

[WILDER]

I wouldn't mix the internal parasite med with the velvet med.
You will have to run some black carbon and do a water change after the velvet treatment is up.
Then you can treat for internal parasites.

Internal parasites do alot of damage inside the fish so you also have to back up with a bacterial med.

Don't think you can get medicated food in the uk.

 

[julsifer]

I wouldn't mix the internal parasite med with the velvet med. i'm only treating the molly in a quarantine tank with the internal med not the velvet, its my main tank that has velvet treatment going on
You will have to run some black carbon and do a water change after the velvet treatment is up.
Then you can treat for internal parasites. do you think my BNT have internal parasite too? should i keep treating them in my main tank with the velvet and slime

Sorry i'm a little confused

Internal parasites do alot of damage inside the fish so you also have to back up with a bacterial med.

Don't think you can get medicated food in the uk.

 

[WILDER]

If a fish has internal parasites the whole tank needs treating.
it sounds like the plecs have internal parasites if the bum area is red and inflamed.
Let me no how you get on.
Good Luck.

As for the molly maybe leave her where she is till you can treat the whole tank for internal parasites.

 

[julsifer]

hey again thought i'd add that

1. the molly died today
2. i have noticed that there are these millimetre in length dark brown things at the bottom of each of my tanks could these be dead parasites or even worms?

i'm going to my local pet shop today to find some internal parasite meds, i think some of my other fish are showing the beginnings of what the molly had : (

 

[WILDER]

Can't think of an internal parasite thats brown.
Can you remove one to take a closer look with a magifying glass.

Most lfs don't sell decent parasite meds.
Usually you have to get the med from a vet.
Only no two meds you can buy online. One wormer plus the other is this. Get you a link.
http/www.thegreenmachineaquatics.com/mal...ol%20001/198936

Camallous worms are white then turn red when there been feeding on the host.

 

[WILDER]

Camallanus



Symptoms:

When the fish is stationary, deep red worms can be seen protruding from the anal pore. They are only visible when the fish is still because the worms retreat into the intestine at the fish’s slightest movement. Other signs may include an inflamed and enlarged anus. In severe infestations, the fish may become emaciated and spinal curvature may also occur.



Cause:

The parasitic worms Camallanus Cotti and Camallanus lacustris. These small, livebearing parasitic worms attach to the intestinal walls and rectum with pinchers. The worm’s grip is so tight that any attempts to remove it forcibly will rip away tissue from the intestinal wall. The worm’s pinching causes ischemia (reduced blood flow) to that part of the intestine. In time, the tissue to that part of the intestine will die, at which time the worm will migrate to another part of the intestine. This causes perforations throughout the intestine, which allows other pathogens to gain entry. If the fish is not treated, either the parasite or bacterial will kill the fish. Camallanus infestations occur most often in livebearing fish such as Guppies and Mollies, though infection is possible in all fish. Camallanus infestations are contagious. All fish, including those not yet showing visible symptoms, as well as the aquarium, should be treated.



Treatment:

Treat with Internal Parasite Guard, Pipzine, Disco-Worm, Trichlorfon or Fluke-Tabs as well as a medicated food to prevent a bacterial infection.