What Type Of Brass Bolts Will Support A Tank Hanging From The Wall?

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I guess it's hard to explain without pictures but I have like a stand with a tank on but want a tank above it, what can I use to hang from the wall to support the weight of a 4ft tank?
 
Erm no idea really, but depending on dimensions, a 4' tank filled with water could be well over 300kg so I'd get advice from builders/architects/surveyers before trying to hang something like that!
 
Erm no idea really, but depending on dimensions, a 4' tank filled with water could be well over 300kg so I'd get advice from builders/architects/surveyers before trying to hang something like that!

I went to this lads house today he had both steel brackets, one on left bit, one in middle, one on right bit and both were full 5ft tanks and hanging of the wall with a bit of wood under it?
 
Erm no idea really, but depending on dimensions, a 4' tank filled with water could be well over 300kg so I'd get advice from builders/architects/surveyers before trying to hang something like that!

I went to this lads house today he had both steel brackets, one on left bit, one in middle, one on right bit and both were full 5ft tanks and hanging of the wall with a bit of wood under it?

What kind of wall? Concrete? Plaster with 1inch strip board? Studed wall with 2x4's? It can be done and look quite nice. But it depends on your wall.
 
Erm no idea really, but depending on dimensions, a 4' tank filled with water could be well over 300kg so I'd get advice from builders/architects/surveyers before trying to hang something like that!

I went to this lads house today he had both steel brackets, one on left bit, one in middle, one on right bit and both were full 5ft tanks and hanging of the wall with a bit of wood under it?

What kind of wall? Concrete? Plaster with 1inch strip board? Studed wall with 2x4's? It can be done and look quite nice. But it depends on your wall.

It's the brick wall I live on a corner house my bedroom is on the corner so have brick both sides. Plaster has just been re-done it's solid brick.
 
It can be done with a brick wall. U would need a hammer drill to drill holes into the wall first. Then u will need concrete tapcons. Atleast 1 inch x 3 inch long. The water alone for a 40 gallon tank will weight 335lbs, a 50 gallon would be 415lbs. U will have to weigh the empty tank to see what that weights. I am on my phone so its too hard to type everything u would need. Brass bolts aren't going to do it. U need concrete lag bolts or falcons as they are called here. I can give u more later when i get home to my computer. It can be done, hanging ur tank from ur wall

Falcons should be tapcons. My phone has auto spell checker. Hahaha
 
Hanging a tank from a wall needs to be done with great care. The simple weight of the tank is not the only consideration. Let me try to explain. If you support the weight within a very few inches of the wall, think of a very narrow tank, all you need to support is the weight and simple solutions will work. If you have something as wide as a typical tank, you also need to address the twisting force that will be placed on the wall. In essence, the top of the tank will want to fall away from the wall and you will need enough strength in your anchoring to resist that twisting force. By using appropriately designed brackets, you can minimize the force that is actually seen at the wall anchor but that can be a rather elaborate bracket to hold something as substantial as a fish tank. One solution that should work, if your tapcon can resist being withdrawn from the wall adequately, is a tall triangular shaped bracket so that the force on the outer edge of the shelf is basically translated into a vertical force at the wall itself near the bottom of the bracket. Since vertical forces are much easier for a fastener to resist, especially a fastener inserted horizontally into a wall, the shape of the bracket will make things far more likely to hold the weight. If your bracket also extended up the wall behind the tank, you could also get a fastener into it at the top that would be subjected to lower pull out forces than a fastener at the bottom of the tank would be. I am not going to try supporting any of my own tanks strictly by hanging them from a wall because other designs are far more stable and much stronger.
 
Hanging a tank from a wall needs to be done with great care. The simple weight of the tank is not the only consideration. Let me try to explain. If you support the weight within a very few inches of the wall, think of a very narrow tank, all you need to support is the weight and simple solutions will work. If you have something as wide as a typical tank, you also need to address the twisting force that will be placed on the wall. In essence, the top of the tank will want to fall away from the wall and you will need enough strength in your anchoring to resist that twisting force. By using appropriately designed brackets, you can minimize the force that is actually seen at the wall anchor but that can be a rather elaborate bracket to hold something as substantial as a fish tank. One solution that should work, if your tapcon can resist being withdrawn from the wall adequately, is a tall triangular shaped bracket so that the force on the outer edge of the shelf is basically translated into a vertical force at the wall itself near the bottom of the bracket. Since vertical forces are much easier for a fastener to resist, especially a fastener inserted horizontally into a wall, the shape of the bracket will make things far more likely to hold the weight. If your bracket also extended up the wall behind the tank, you could also get a fastener into it at the top that would be subjected to lower pull out forces than a fastener at the bottom of the tank would be. I am not going to try supporting any of my own tanks strictly by hanging them from a wall because other designs are far more stable and much stronger.

Thanks it's just I have this type of stand (bit like a furniture with cupboards under it) the tank sits ontop of it and I want another same size tank but nowhere else in my room I can put so I guess having one above the other... is they any easy way to do this?
 
It can be done with a brick wall. U would need a hammer drill to drill holes into the wall first. Then u will need concrete tapcons. Atleast 1 inch x 3 inch long. The water alone for a 40 gallon tank will weight 335lbs, a 50 gallon would be 415lbs. U will have to weigh the empty tank to see what that weights. I am on my phone so its too hard to type everything u would need. Brass bolts aren't going to do it. U need concrete lag bolts or falcons as they are called here. I can give u more later when i get home to my computer. It can be done, hanging ur tank from ur wall

Falcons should be tapcons. My phone has auto spell checker. Hahaha

I'm going to get my tropical tank all booted up this weekend then want a coldwater above it because no other space in my room lol so will have to be above it, I live on the corner bedroom so have the brickwall, besides tapcons what else should I be looking at? Will this be very expensive to do or not?
 
It will be a big job that will not be easy nor would i recomend you do in yourself i would deffinatlly recomend getting a proffesional in to have a look at the job and see what he thinks of it

My opinions, stupid idea, simple
 
Let us know how you get on. I would be holding my breath all the time. So much depends on the integrity of your wall and I think you are taking a big chance.
 
Why not build or buy a stand that can accommodate two tanks? The other thing you should be considering is how high the second overhead tank will be, and I'd think it would be so high as to make it difficult to do water changes and other maintenance that would require you to reach to the bottom.
 
I'm no builder or anything, But I think you'd be far, far better off switching your current cabinet for something like this; http://www.aquatics-warehouse.co.uk/acatalog/FISH_TANK_STANDS.html
Anyone who works with metal and can weld could knock together something similar pretty easily.
 
I'm no builder or anything, But I think you'd be far, far better off switching your current cabinet for something like this; http://www.aquatics-...ANK_STANDS.html
Anyone who works with metal and can weld could knock together something similar pretty easily.

Just what I thought! Great minds work alike ...
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Just what I thought! Great minds work alike ...
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Well, your mind is obviously great; not sure about mine! If it was I wouldn't have bothered repeating your good advice, lol!
 

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