What Size?

Celestial

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I've been pestering my parents for a fish tank for about a year now on and off, and finally they decided that if I have a good report I am allowed to get a tank.
So, what size should I be looking at? I would definately want it planted, and it would be a community tank with tetras, corys, plec ect.
So please give me your verdict :D
 
I would go to whatever size you can afford,bigger the better :good:

Because if you opt for a small tank,you'll definately want a bigger one before long :lol:
 
yeah

also as a minimum for those fish a 20 gallon would be probably the smallest for some neons and corys however 300 would be better

also the pleco if you mean a common one then thats a no as they grow huge and need a 125 gallon tank plus
 
Ok, thanks :)
I have been looking at some large tanks, like a 3ft long 1 1/2ft deep and 2ft high (255l), or I could get a 4ft long 2ft high and 2ft deep tank (433l)
 
well bigger the better so the 4x2x2 sounds the best
 
well bigger the better so the 4x2x2 sounds the best
On its own its about £190 but with cabinet and hood its £380 I think. I've got some money from Christmas and my mum and dad would lend me some hopefully =]
 
although its nice to buy a new tank i thnk you could get a better deal if you brought second hand

like i got a 9x3x3 for 250 so it depends where you are really you just got to keep looking

for example heres one
http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail51_154907.php

(i brought some fish off him last night and hes saw the tank it looks realy good)


another
http://www.aquarist-classifieds.co.uk/php/detail59_145901.php
 
heh one of the reasons i didnt go bigger that 5 foot is that 2 people have trouble lifting anything over that size.. i know i do..
 
I would like my stocking to look like this:
4x Black Veil Angels
1x German Blue Ram
1x German Gold Ram
5x Celestial Pearl Danios
5x Agassazi Cory
1x Neon Dwarf Gourami
1x Blue Paradis
1x Starry Night Pleco
10x Neon Tetras
1x Albino Rainbow Shark
4x Otocinclus
3x Scarlet Gem Badis

It would hopefully be heavily planted with bogwood.
Please tell me if I would need to take some fish off the list.
Here is a video of what the tank size is like: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_8jrCXTRzA&feature=channel
 
Look in the classified section on these forums, there are some good deals there. You might have to travel but it will be worth it!
 
Hi celestial and welcome to the beginners section!

Its wonderful to be in the position of having room for a large tank like that. Larger volumes of water are slower to change and give you more time to react as a beginner if a bad condition is starting to arise. You also get lots of choice while researching your stocking plans.

A couple of cautions spring to mind. The tank, stand and lighting lid are only the initial bit of hardware and if you really want to run a nice tank you will find that heaters, test kits, substrate, background and decorations are also necessary to varying degrees. Most importantly, as a serious hobbyist, you will want good filtration equipment and that can be quite expensive, so its very, very good if you get a chance to research that prior to an actual tank purchase (but of course that kind of restraint takes real patience!)

Here on TFF its often recommended that you plan a tank with at least "5x turnover" (which means that the full water volume would need to pass through the filter 5 times each hour) and depending on how serious you are about planting the tank there are planted tank enthusiasts who like to work with at least 10x turnover. The larger the tank gets the more significant the pumps get to achieve this and the more noise they make, which can also be a factor, especially if the tank will be in your bedroom. If you take a look at modern external cannister filters (more or less the top of the line for this sort of thing) by Eheim, Rena, TetraTec or Fluval, you will find the kind of media bed volume needed to do really good filtration of larger tanks. These filters can get quite expensive!

Another factor to think about, specifically with regard to the larger tank you've mentioned, is that most aquarists find it significantly more difficult to do their "substrate operations" (working with things at gravel/sand level) the taller the tank gets. I personally find a 17 inch tall tank to be a challange sometimes in this regard. Certainly not saying it can't be done, it just ends up requiring more extension tools, more patience, more time and effort.

So there are good things to be said about high quality setups in the 20G/75L to 45G/170L range that are fully fitted with excellent filters, heaters and lights. There are also good things going for the 55G/208L to 125G/473L range but the expenses do go quite a bit higher!

~~waterdrop~~
 
The blue and gold rams are a no no, they need higher temperatures (28oC) than the other fish you have listed, it is also vital that they're kept in water with a PH of 5-6 and a GH of 0-12 degrees. The neons and ottos will need a mature tank, so you need to wait 6 months before adding them. And the badis are sub tropical so are not suitable.
 

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