What Now?!?

[WILDER]

The fish that went skinny was it due to not eating.
Bacterial infections the list point too, long stringy white poo can be bacterial aswell as parasites, being lisltess and lethagic, darker in colour, not eating.
Columnaris is bacterial as well.

Long stringy white poo means.
Constipation.
Internal parasites,
Bacterial infection.

Also fish can hang at the surface and heavy breath with bacterial infections.
http/www.petsforum.com/cis-fishnet/afm/G29060.htm

 

[LolaLouie]

Yup... it's the only thing that matches all the symptoms... guess there's nothing i can do as they aren't responding to treatment.

It's a shame we can't get decent meds in the uk!

Oh and the skinny fish... she was still eating a little when she got skinny but not very much.

 

[WILDER]

If the fish don't have camallanous worms the wormer plus should take care of it.
There a jbl med but it wipes the beneifcal bacteria colony out in your filter.
There the vet but if they did perscribe antibiotics they wipe the beneifcal bacterial out as well in your filter.
Its handy if you have more than one tank when you have to use strong meds like antibiotics as you can kick start a tank by using a sponge from another tank.

 

[WILDER]

[URL="http/www.aquarticles.com/articles/manage..._sick_fish.html"]http/www.aquarticles.com/articles/manage..._sick_fish.html[/URL]

Taken from the above link.
Gills
----Pale gill color (viral or bacterial infection, parasites, toxins, internal bleeding)
----Spots on gills (lymphocystis, bacteria, parasites, dinoflagellates)
----Gill lamellae/filaments fused (bacteria, lymphocystis, hyperplasia)
----Gill lamellae/filaments eroded (bacteria, lymphocystis, parasites)

 

[Tolak]

There is a difference between worms and what is considered internal parasites. Wormer Plus is a flubendazole based medication, which is good for worms, but often does nothing for spironucleus or hexamita type of parasites. You need a medication that has metronidazole or dimetronidazole for these types of parasites.

Internal parasites are common with angels, discus, and other cichlids. They are often considered a normal part of their digestive floura, kept in check by the fish's immune system. If the fish's immune system is comprimized in any way these little parasites will often take over.

I have treated countless angels with metro, it's available over the counter in the US, in the UK you will probably have to go to a vet for this or dimetronidazole.

 

[WILDER]

Why do med companies lie about what there meds treat as it really annoys me.
Someone said the wormer plus didn't help either with flukes which it says it treats.

 

[LolaLouie]

Thanks for your input Tolak.

Well my Ram died this morning (with a little help from me as she was lying at the bottom on her back with her body bent round) and then I came in this afternoon and my angel was dead. I took out his body and exmined it, looked inside his gills and everything but not a visible sign of anything.

I just hope that none of the others will get it.

This is why I gave up fish keeping 8 years ago!!

 

[WILDER]

Was the spine bent as that is a sign of internal parasites, old age, fish tb.
R.I.P.

 

[LolaLouie]

Yes spine bent. So i guess as no visual symptoms that makes it internal parasite... do you have any recommendations other than wormer plus as that does not seem to have had an effect.

Thanks Wilder.

 

[WILDER]

Only option you have left now is a vet you could phone, tell him the systoms and he might percribe a med, sometimes you also have to take photo's of sick fish.
You could bag a dead fish up and take it to the vets to be tested on.