What Is It About Kribs?

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Somebody tell me why so many buy kribs and want them but have a problem learning to keep them? It sounds like the oscar dilema. Or convicts. Is it because they are pretty? I don't know what they look like. Are they easy to breed? Have personality? Cheap?
 
Somebody tell me why so many buy kribs and want them but have a problem learning to keep them? It sounds like the oscar dilema. Or convicts. Is it because they are pretty? I don't know what they look like. Are they easy to breed? Have personality? Cheap?

Kribs are a bit larger that the S. A. Dwarf Cichlids and have similar coloration, but are much more readily available and somewhat hardier. They're also very easy to breed and there's a lot of (mis)info on the web that says "no, not very aggressive at all."

I take it back. There are mixed reports regarding krib aggression. Some people, even on here, have kribs that are very laid back and don't hurt anything. Other people have kribs that grow up to be little hellions. As far as I know, there's no good way to figure out what kind you have before they hit full adulthood.
 
Also Kribs are very easy to Breed and Pair Up which is another attraction. They are also quite different looking fish and have great colours which adds to their popularity :good:
 
Is there courting/mating ritual interesting/active like say Cories or Bettas?
 
Well yes it is

The male usually courts the female via the shaking of the body and extension of fins along with great colouring. The female if it responds to the males courting she will get very colourful and also use her two fins to cup her stomach & occasionally turn her body at an angle. If there is duelling females for a males attention the females will attempt to make their bellys look larger and the female with the larger looking belly usually pairs with the male. They can be very aggressive in breeding conditions Kribensis and are also great parents.

Hope that helps
(I may be wrong with a few details but I don't think so)
 
The kribs I got were bred in Thailand, but I don't think they would act much different from the rest of the world. I've had a pair of kribs in my old tank and been keeping them for years. They are laid back and live happily with other dwarf cichlids. They never breed. But they both had very pink stomach so they could both be females.

In my new tank, I've also got a pair for a couple of weeks. This time I think it's male and female. They also live with my other dwarf cichilds (check my signature). Occasionally nip someone's fin, and that's about the limit (I hope). The female has very pink stomach and would show it off to the male. The male pays no interest in her and would just run away! :sly:
 
Somebody tell me why so many buy kribs and want them but have a problem learning to keep them? It sounds like the oscar dilema. Or convicts. Is it because they are pretty? I don't know what they look like. Are they easy to breed? Have personality? Cheap?

Pretty much everything people have said is spot on in my experience of keeping and breeding kribs. In fact the questions you ask are the main reasons they are so popular.

Forms pairs easily & breeds like rabbits = large supply

Large supply = lot's of cheap Kribs in your lfs

Cheap, hardy and pretty = a quick turnaround for your lfs manager and a happy customer


I kept my Kribs with tetras and because the Kribs are mostly bottom dwelling and the tetras medium/top they didnt seem to bother each other too much for me. But other people may have other recommendations or warnings. Kribs can have very strong personalities in my experience and what works with one may or may not work well with another. In terms of people running into problems while keeping them, it probably has a lot to do with the individual not researching a fish before they buy coupled with the fact that most employees in your local lfs won't give you advice unless you ask for it and even then it's not guaranteed to be accurate. I dont have much experience of convicts so cant make a comparison there but compared to oscars kribs are extremely low maintenance. They are a dwarf species so you dont have to worry much about size and with regard to aggressiveness then a krib next to an oscar is like a puppy next to a hungry doberman :p

But for me, I even kept the tetras in the tank once my breeding pair had fertilised their eggs and while they were raising the fry. As said before in a previous post Kribs are very conscientious parents and occasionally a wayward tetra would get lunged at but there was no intent to do it serious damage by the Krib and as far as I could see/tell there were no casualties to either the tetras or the fry. When they were patrolling with fry was the only time that they seemed intolerant of a tetra that came in close, but that may just be the result of the fact that the particular kribs I have had have been liberal kribs :p and with others I would have had differing results.

I'm not sure what exactly would be compatible with Kribs other than tetras, however if you want to keep more than a male/female breeding pair in one tank then you will need to be careful (multiple females without a male seems to be ok too). From what I have read, if I remember correctly, in the wild a male Krib will usually create a territory inside which 2 or 3 females will each have their own territories. If you stick a group of kribs together they will pair off but I have it on good authority that a male Krib will bump uglies with more than one female at a time if given the right environment :p The male will patrol the large territory and ensure that rival males and other unwanted fish are driven out. So on that note, if you are considering breeding the kribs, I would not recommend keeping more than one male Krib (or a male of another dwarf cichlid variety for that matter) no matter how big your tank is for stress reasons. The dominant male is gonna make life hell for the other no matter how many hiding places it has. At one point I had 2 male Kribs in a tank, not a big tank granted (my 24x12x12), and everytime they saw each other it was like closing time on a saturday night. Needless to say, I very quickly removed the second male.

In terms of multiple females with a breeding male, I wouldnt consider it unless you can be sure you can give them adequate territories each. The 24x12x12 seemed to suit 1 female fine but I wouldnt want to have given her any less room than that as a territory. Both the male and the female would regularly patrol the whole area and they seemed to get happier/more active when I changed the substrate to a dark gravel and heavily planted the tank. In my experience the females can be very aggressive toward each other when there are males around. As the fry grew and some of the females began reaching about 2 inches they started gaining their vivid adult colours. At this point the dominant females would force the smaller adolescents into hiding and it was time to get the larger ones packed off to my lfs.

With regard to their courtship/mating: I love the courting acts of the Kribs. The females (or at least the ones I have had) were such little tarts :p The first female I had would display her belly to the male and arch her body while swimming around him with a kind of fluttering motion. The male I have is a bit pathetic though, his colours are very vivid when he gets aroused but most of the time he just chases her away so he can have some peace. My male may seem to me a bit pathetic but he certainly gets the job done and while I had the breeding pair in the same tank it was never long after I had removed one batch of fry that they would start on the next.

So that may be a danger if you or anyone else is considering keeping them. I didnt have to encourage them to breed at all, just put a male and a female together and a month or so later when checking the tank I was delighted to see the female surrounded in a cloud of fry. As said before they are very good parents and both the male/female will round up/patrol with the fry around the tank. I've even seen the female picking up mouthfuls of food, bringing it over and spitting it out in her favourite cave while the fry were inside. Most amusing for me though was the second lot of fry my first female had. I dont know what was up with the female but the male did almost all of the patrolling with the fry. He was well whipped! must be a new age man or something :p

Sorry for the length btw, I think I got carried away but that's a further testimony to how fantastic a breed of fish these little guys are I guess. I love 'em and they have been an excellent breed for an amateur like me to learn the ropes with. Hope I've explained a bit about them to you. Would recommend them for anyone. :good:
 
Also the fry appear to be very hardy I have about 36 krib fry which I raised as a complete newbie.

I believe the best tank for Krib fry should have plenty of Algae so incase you don't feed them enough they can have some Algae :)
 
They are one of the ''step ups'' for breeders from livebearers..

Most people start with livebearers when they are young, and want to try an egglayer...

Convicts or kribensis are usually the next step.. Was that way for me.

Not usually too expensive, and they come in an albino version.
 
I guess my issue is the constant desire to put all kinds of other fish to "fill up" the tank. I see the same thing with convicts and oscars. Boys at work get a ten gallon tank and an oscar or a pair of convicts or both. Then they want to put a catfish or plec in, meanwhile the convicts are breeding and getting live goldfish to eat and a few nibbles out of each other. It looks like much the same thing here with the kribs. Oh well, I'm just grousing.
 
hehe yeah I can understand why that would bother you too. I had an 'acquaintance' a couple of years back that was the same way. Got a tank and started filling it with everything that caught his eye regardless and then would complain to me that a lot of the fish never lasted long. I think he enjoyed watching them fight with each other a little too much though.

Was the other way around for me, rather than wonder what I could use to 'fill up' my tank I was more concerned with what is not gonna make the fish I have its next meal. My brother gave me a spare heater he had so taking that as an excuse (as you do :p ) I went out and bought my first tank for about 5 years. Got a couple of danios to cycle it and then bought some xray and red-blackcurrant tetras. After a couple of weeks I started wondering if there was anything else that would fit in well with the tank and that's when my brother suggested I try a dwarf cichlid breed. So after a little research and a couple of trips to the lfs that's how my love affair with kribs got started. I havnt kept anything else but the danios and tetras with them since and I've had no problems.

I gave my brother a couple of females from the fry I had and he has them in a tank with catfishes and tetras. I forget all the breeds but I'll find out and post again if you're interested. Most are south american breeds cause it was initially an amazon basin themed tank until i gave him the kribs (dont think he was best pleased but after his rams died he needed something to replace them imo and kribs are more akin to the SA breeds of dwarf cichlids than african cichlids). He has had no problems either but that may be a result of the fact that the 2 female kribs I gave him were about 0.5cm long when introduced to the tank so they were very much at the bottom of the pecking order for a long time and your not likely to find kribs much below 2 inch at any lfs's, at least those in my area anyway. Also his tank is about 50 gallons I think with around 7-10 tetras, 2 catfish and 2 kribs so it's not like there is much concern over space, anything that doesnt want to be around another breed has enough room to find it's own comfort zone.

Maybe in a few years the 'Nanny' state will introduce fish licenses? :lol:
 
Nanny state? England? haha That's ok we have big brother, and he's elected by us and we make the laws. :sick:


Your friend is what I see lots of. It's all about sex and aggression :p

I would be glad to hear about your and your bro's tanks.

I like peaceful communities. My SA cichlids are appistogramma; my Afticans are frontosa.

I have 3 front tanks, 2 communities, 3 cory, 7 Betta and a dwarf S.petracola 10 usg tank looking for a community home. I also have a package of female Bettas coming to restart a Sorority Tank. Oh and a common goldie on the patio in 60 usg. I keep threatening to take him to the LPS so he can have a nice pond home. But he is my first fish--or the first one to survive to adultness. :rolleyes:
 

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