What Has Happend?!?!?!

Embrace

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Ok so I finished my cycle on thursday and last night I did the massive water change and moved my tank. I was expecting to be at the fish shop between 10-10.30. I just tested my water and I was horrified to find -

Ammonia: 0.5
NitrIte - 5.0
NitrAte - 80

Im really annoyed as I was all excited to go to the LFS and get my fish

What have I done wrong?

My last set of results (when I finished my cycle) -

Ammonia - 0
NitrIte - 0
NitrAte - between 0 and 5
 
Can sometimes happen there is a blip at the end of the cycle, thats why after all the stats are 'normal' you carry on dosing for another good week or so just to make sure. Also, when you re-filled the tank, did you remember to dechlorinate it?
 
Embrace, before I offer any opinion, I want you to know I'm new to this hobby too, having started reseach on April 1st... So please DO NOT TAKE MY OPINION AS ANYTHING CLOSE TO "DEAD CERT."
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My guess is that your tank bacteria was just at that borderline stage where they were just about coping with what should have been ~5ppm ammonia each day. Once you find that your ammonia and nitrite levels are reaching 0 within 12 hours, it is best to keep maintaining 5ppm of ammonia in the tank each 12 hours and ensuring it is processed to zero, likewise for nitrite, for the next 7days... KEEPING THE SAME UNCHANGED WATER. Apparently, this is known as a "qualifying week" and gives you good odds of your water being ready for your first fish after a big water change (~75-90%) the day befoe you goto the fish shop.

From what I've read, nitrite processing bacteria cultures grow much slower than ammonia processing bacteria at pH values above ~7.5, which possibly explains my own scenario in my QT (Southampton tap water is pH 8.2 and I'm having to do 50-75% water changes due to upto 0.3 nitrite readings, while my heavily planted Rio240 tank with a carbon dioxide bubbler is pH 7.5 and has never had nitrite higher than 0.1 since three days after introducing CO[sub]2[/sub]).

Another thing worth mentioning is that sometimes our water board companies will randomly change their treatment, that can mean that water from the tap comes with nitrite and nitrate spikes. It might be worth doing a test on your tap water.

One final thing that springs to mind right now is that have you accidentally added fresh untreated tap water to your tank that was looking so good? As in, have you forgotten to add your de-chlorinator eg. Nutrafin Aquaplus? The chlorine in tap water would wipe out you entire bacterial culture very quickly.

I had a similar incident to yours, but not quite as extreme with my Rio in late April... I initially was doing a "fishless cycle" by adding Sainsbury's "Tropical Flake" every other day. A week later I added plants and continued feeding an empty tank. A week after that I added my Dennerle CO[sub]2[/sub] system and my NH[sub]3 [/sub]and NO[sub]2 [/sub]values were looking good for ~7 days. Then out of the blue, I got a nitrite reading of 0.3, confirmed by my LFS and so I had to abandon my first fish for a few more days.

Hope you have not fallen asleep reading this driffle and its of some use, but please try and wait for more experience fish keeping input.
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Hey guys,
Thanks for the great advice... I am not asleep :lol:

So after I wait a week or so adding ammonia do I still have to do the big water change :no:
 
Once you have done a water change, you need to leave it a good 8hrs before testing the water again. If you took the readings within n hour or so of a water change, you won't have an accurate reading.
 
Hi Embrace,

Don't know if you are still checking this thread but a case like yours was exactly why we started using the "qualification week" idea. There were just so many cases of people getting their first "double-zero" and getting really excited about it, doing the big water change, getting fish and then having a mini-cycle! Once we started using the qualification week we saw that it caught a number of cases where the ammonia and nitrite came back on people after they had already seen double-zeros at 12 hours.

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