So it is eventually time for me to finish of my stocking with some rams which I would of got yesterday but one didn't looks to good so I passed, and am going to check this weekend to see if it has improved, but there was 2 females and 1 male, would 2 females to one male be ok as would rather give the other female a nice home instead of leaving it alone, our just get 1/1 ratio?
What Blue Ram Ratio To Get?
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From my experience with Bolivian Rams, you almost need to get more than two rams initially to increase your chances of getting a breeding pair. But once the male pairs with a female, then I believe the other female could get bullied if the tank is not large enough to have separate territories for them. I had four rams for a year and then re-homed two of them because my tank was not large enough for them.
Gvilleguy is correct on the bullying issue. This can also occur if we just put any male and female together. With either species in this genus, the common or blue ram (Mikrogeophagus ramirezi) and all its artificial forms, or the Bolivian (M. altispinosus), the options are the same as the fish behaviour is the same.
If spawning is the desire, I would select a bonded pair from the dealer's tank. It is usually pretty easy to spot a pair that has bonded [I can explain further if asked]. The other option is to acquire a group, say 5-6, and allow them to pair off. The problem with this is having to then dispense with the other three or four. Depending upon the tank size (which you haven't given us) leaving them together is not always safe. I have had a Bolivian male kill a female even in a 5-foot 115g tank because they did not bond of their own accord.
Some sources say the bond is life-long, others disagree. But whichever, it still remains that the fish will be more likely to get along if they have selected each other.
Byron.
If spawning is the desire, I would select a bonded pair from the dealer's tank. It is usually pretty easy to spot a pair that has bonded [I can explain further if asked]. The other option is to acquire a group, say 5-6, and allow them to pair off. The problem with this is having to then dispense with the other three or four. Depending upon the tank size (which you haven't given us) leaving them together is not always safe. I have had a Bolivian male kill a female even in a 5-foot 115g tank because they did not bond of their own accord.
Some sources say the bond is life-long, others disagree. But whichever, it still remains that the fish will be more likely to get along if they have selected each other.
Byron.
Getting 1 - 1 would be fine IF you knew for a fact they were an actual pair.
Just putting 1 male and 1 female together is no guarantee they will bond or ever get along together, much like with humans if there is no attraction then they will not bond no matter what.
If it's for your 125 litre in your sig then you don't really have enough room for more than 2 GBRs but as long as you make sure you get a bonded pair then things should go ok .
Just putting 1 male and 1 female together is no guarantee they will bond or ever get along together, much like with humans if there is no attraction then they will not bond no matter what.
If it's for your 125 litre in your sig then you don't really have enough room for more than 2 GBRs but as long as you make sure you get a bonded pair then things should go ok .
Went and got a balloon blue ram today, they only the ballon variant in stock but up they were pretty enough for me, only got one though as there was not a single pair in the tank that I could see, so just got the most boisterous one that kept squaring up to the other males, ( at least I think its a male as read somewhere balloon male and females can look sort of the same) was thinking of going back and just getting 1 female and hope they pair, our would I be better of just keeping the one male?
A bit of scare also ensued when I got my new plant home as somehow a loach was hiding inside of it and got brought home without me noticing in a bag with no water and it somehow survived a 30min drive back home, just had to take some tank water in a bowl and pop it in and take it straight back to the store. I just thought the 1 time it thrashed about was ram in the bag.
A bit of scare also ensued when I got my new plant home as somehow a loach was hiding inside of it and got brought home without me noticing in a bag with no water and it somehow survived a 30min drive back home, just had to take some tank water in a bowl and pop it in and take it straight back to the store. I just thought the 1 time it thrashed about was ram in the bag.
Presumably your tank is the 125 litre in your signature line, so I would not risk things with another ram. The male (and I agree it sounds as if it is a male) will "own" the tank and be fine.
Byron.
Byron.
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