Want To Plant Out My New 90 Gallon

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Hi Guys,

Well I bought a new 90 gallon aquarium, and I want to heavily plant it. I am a begginer at keeping plants, and would like to know what gravel, and other materials I need to keep these plants alive. Click here to see the plants I will be getting. Obviously since it is a 90 gallon I will be getting the 75 gallon package. If you can help me in any way by suggesting gravel, fertilizers, and other materials I need to get please do so.

Thanks
Adam
 
Ok. First off you are going to need a lot of light. Going by those plant profiles, you will need a minimum of 3 wpg... meanning at least 270 watts of light. That is near impossible with normal flourescent lights. You will need to look into either a power compact fixture, or the metal halide lights. Both are pricey. I got my PC fixture for 350 canadian, and the bulbs from the same store are 50 a piece. That only gives me 2.4 wpg

For substrate, you will need something mixed with it with a fetralizer in it. I use Laterite. It is an iron rich substrate for plants. It goes underneath your sand or gravel. I use pool filter sand in my tank, mainly because it was the cheapest. You can use either sand or gravel... people here find that either works well.

You will also need to look at dosing liquid fertalizers as well. When the tank is heavily planted, you don't get enough nitrates from fish and food waste, so you have to add it as well as Phosphates. Here is a great article about how to dose. It seems a bit overwhelming at first, but once you get into it it is very easy to follow.

Once you get the light figured out, you will also have to add co2 into the tank. With that much light, algea will take over the tank unless you supplement co2. The fish just dont supply enough naturally. For a tank this size, you can try doing it DIY (a pop bottle with yeast and sugar) but you go through so much sugar and yeast. I lasted about 2 months before getting fed up with it and going pressurized. Again... it's expensive, but necessary.

I have easily spent 700 cad on just the equipment for my tank... then all the plants and decorations. And I think I need to add a bit more light. It's not getting all the wa y to to bottom and some of the plants at the bottom aren't doing so well.

What are the dimensions of the tank?

Anything else I can help you with? It's a long process, and I had a million questions as well.
 
Wow I never new that plants need to much attention. How much in total do think it will cost me in US $ to get it up and running?
 
It depends on what your plans are. If you want all those plants, then you will need everything I listed... so your looking upwards of 500 US. And that will be pushing it. You might be able to find stuff cheaper on ebay or at other stores around you... you will have to shop around. for the co2 tank, should you go pressurized, look at places that refill fire extinguishers. I got my tank and regulator at a welding supply shop because they were the cheapest around me. I know home brewery shops sell them as well.

The store where I got the light has an american website - www.bigalsonline.com. My light kit there is 215 US.. but it coms with the wrong bulbs. It is a saltwater light, and you need the 55 or 65 watt bulbs... not the atinic and 10,000k bulbs. I get my replacement bulbs from a seller through ebay for 6 dollars each instaed of 50 at my lfs.

The light fixture will also depend on the length of your tank, as they are sold in specific lenghts.
 
If you could make a list of everything I need I will be very grateful. I know you already have but can you make a numbered list. :D

Thx
Adam
 
Like I have said already... it all depends on what your plans are. Do you want to spend 500$ and have to dose fertalizers daily? if you want to go all out, it requires alot of work and maintenance. 50% water changes every week, testing daily and dosing meds. PRuning plants all the time. It is impossible to make a generalized list. In order for me to help you out, you have to give me as much detail as possible.

have you read the articles pinned at the top of this section? The CO2, lighting and EI? You will want to read those before you decide how far into this you want to go.
 
ok but the Narrow Leaf Ludwigia needs at least 3 watts per gallon right? If so then I need 270 watts of light at least, meaning that I need CO2 right? If so how much CO2 do I need?
 
People who use co2 aim to get 25-30ppm in the tank. You can't say an amount to use. It depends on the pH and kH of your water. Some people can have large tanks and dont need to add a lot of co2, while others have a very high bubble rate in order to acheive the right amount.
 
The bubble counter is necessary to see the rate that the gas is going into the tank. It help to get the maximun amount of absorbancy of it.

I can't tell you how much you would need. It's impossible. The only way to tell is to get a tank and hook it up. Then you adjust the flow to get the right ppm. I have a 5 pound tank, and it lasts me about 2 months... others can use the same size tank and have it last 6 months.
 
Im totally confused :(. I just want my tank with the plants I listed. What do I have to do to make this work?

Ill be back in an hour, please post advice to unconfuse me.

Thx
 
Ok. for those plants you will need something along the lines of what I have.

A substrate with fertalizer - Laterite or Flourite. both work well... I have only used laterite.
Then sand or gravel of some sort.

A light kit capable of doing a minimum of 250 watts. That may or may not work for the Ludwiga species. You may want more.

A CO2 Cylender, regulator, tubing, bubble ladder. You can also get a solnoid, which turns off the co2 when the lights go out as plants don't absorb the co2 then.

Fertalizers. Most people here have gotten into the EI method of mixing dry chemicals to make the right ratio. You can buy the dry stuff from www.gregwatson.com. You will also need a trace fertalizer like Seachem Flourish.

For test kits, you will need pH, kH and PO4. You test the co2 level using the pH and kH.


Then of course, tweezers or something to plant with, a net. Since you will have to be doing massive water changes, you would be wise to get The Python to do that. Then of course some de-chlorinator

All of these are listed in the 3 pinned articles that I pointed you too earlier
 

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