Wall Mounted

[phoenix2081]

I am looking at getting a wall mounted fish tank for guppy only.

The one I am looking at comes with an internal filter. This is the details posted.


3. Multi function submersible filter pump shell adopt high quality ABS and durable operation. Axle core and axle casings, made of hig quality ceramics, non-corrosive. Application for the use of filtering, pumping water or oxygen inside filter is zeolit sponge, ceramic bio rings and activated carbon.

Internal filter pump 600l/h
- zeolit
- activated carbon
- ceramic bio rings

Zeolite
Filtering medium for biological and mechanical filtration for fresh and marine water aquarium. Zeolite material comes from volcano's and its molecular structure is very regular. Its absolutely high porosity absorbs ions and molecules of different composition and size, so that it neutralizes ammonium, silicates , nitrites and nitrates. Absorbs of polluting organic and inorganic substances. Use place it in the external filter or in the biological filter located under the centrifugal pump so that water passes trough it completely.

Activated carbon
Quickly and reliably absorbs toxic substances ad colourants from the aquarium water. The yellow fish tint of the aquarium water disappears. The water becomes crystal clear. Does no affect the pH value. Activated carbon can be easily added to external or internal filters to eliminate odours, detoxify harmful materials and keep your water nice and clean. Carbon needs to be replaced every three months. Suitable for filtration of fresh- and saltwater.

Ceramic bio Rings
These Ceramic Rings are an excellent biological filter media for both Freshwater and Saltwater. The rings are made of highly porous, non-toxic, inert materials which promote the growth of nitrifying bacteria. The hollow design aids water flow and also maximises the surface area on which the nitrifying bacteria colonies grow. These strong ceramic rings do NOT disintegrate and act as an efficient long term, reusable filter media.

Are these any good? What is the maintenance like? Or is it worth while scrapping this filter and getting a sponge filter?

 

[KrazyKuhli]

Depends on how much you want to spend really, I know they aren't too popular due to being narrow...

 

[OldMan47]

Regarding the filter media, the ceramic rings are useful and are the ultimate location for much of your biological filtration. The carbon can be useful for removing medications and odors but is not really needed in a well maintained tank. The zeolite can be dangerous if not replaced regularly because it removes chemicals that would otherwise be dealt with by the biological filter. When it becomes exhausted you experience a "break through" of those chemicals and your filter is not prepared to deal with it. The advertising copy that you put under that heading is true in its way but very misleading. Zeolite will absorb almost anything until it becomes full and then it will suddenly stop. Fill that space with a decent mechanical filter instead.
For normal functioning, I fill a filter with mostly biological media and add in mechanical media to protect the biomedia and keep floating particles out of the tank.

 

[phoenix2081]

Regarding the filter media, the ceramic rings are useful and are the ultimate location for much of your biological filtration. The carbon can be useful for removing medications and odors but is not really needed in a well maintained tank. The zeolite can be dangerous if not replaced regularly because it removes chemicals that would otherwise be dealt with by the biological filter. When it becomes exhausted you experience a "break through" of those chemicals and your filter is not prepared to deal with it. The advertising copy that you put under that heading is true in its way but very misleading. Zeolite will absorb almost anything until it becomes full and then it will suddenly stop. Fill that space with a decent mechanical filter instead.
For normal functioning, I fill a filter with mostly biological media and add in mechanical media to protect the biomedia and keep floating particles out of the tank.

Urm what? I get the break through bit then I'm hitting a wall.

What type of filter would you recommend instead? If I was going to get a differant internal one.

 

[TomShootsPhoto]

What about hang on filters?

 

[phoenix2081]

A hang on filter would not work. This is due to it being on a wall and not having anywhere to hang from.

Here is a link to the wall mounted type I am looking at.

it is just the filter I am concerned about.

http/cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150735809955&ssPageName=ADME:RTQ:GB:1123

 

[OldMan47]

Many internal filters come with sponge media only and work very well. I am using a large one as the only filter in a 40 gallon long tank. Mine was made by Fluval and is about 8 years old now. All it amounts to is a pair of sponges, a pumping unit and a case to hold it all. The sponge makes a decent mechanical filter and acts as a great location to grow bacteria. To clean it you take the case off, squeeze out the sponges and clean the pumping unit, then reassemble everything. Smaller versions of the same filter were made at the time. Mine is a model 4+.