Urgent Due January Sale - Fluval Edge 46L Vs Juwel Lido 120 Or Juwel T

[alginonuk]

Hi

I am new to tropical fish keeping (although when I was younger I helped and learned from my dad) and to this forum.

I would like some advice on two aquarium, I am planning on having a planted tank and to aquascape it. Stocking wise I am interested in having the list below, but I am still researching so this is not the final amount/type.

1 Male Betta (already own this fish)
6 Tetra (don't know what kind yet)
1 Ancistrus
10 shrimp (ideally advanced breeders and quick)
1 pair of dwarf crayfish/crayfish (trying to research a peaceful one)

The two tanks are

1) Fluval Edge 46 L (12 Gallon) - I can purchase this tank for €192 ($248 ) - looks stunning, but no heater.

http/www.amazon.co.uk/Fluval-Edge-Aquarium-Black-Gloss/dp/B005X88XIK/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1327313757&sr=8-4

2) Juwel Lido 120 (120 L/32 Gallon) - I can purchase this tank for €117.5 ($151) - includes heater and internal filter, although I would probably buy an external filter. THis is in the January sale so I have to buy it quickly.

3) Or now I have also found a Juwel Trigon 190 for €314
http/www.juwel-aquarium.co.uk/Juwel-trigon.html

Has anyone used these tanks? Has anyone bought different tanks because they didn't like one of these tanks? Any other info much a ppreciated.

Many thanks
James Hallam

 

[Corrine]

Hi

I am new to tropical fish keeping too, so this is my point of view from a newbies perspective ..

I have the smaller version of the edge and it is beautifull.. but pretty hard to maintain due to the small opening at the top. It is very limited in what fish you can keep in it due to the size and also the small opening at the top. Obviously yours is twice the size but there are still limitations

I also got a bigger juwel aquarium which has been soooo much easier to maintain so far .. they also look great (not quite as nice as the edge tho).

If it was my decision I would DEFO go for the 120 litre Juwel.. you will have more options of fish to choose from & it will be much easier to maintain.. plus its cheaper

 

[the_lock_man]

For a number of reasons, get the Lido.

(1) If you fill the Edge right up with water, the way it's supposed to be, the betta only has a small area of surface that he can breathe at. Being a fish, and therefore not the sharpest tool, if he tries to breath, and just feels the glass, he may well panic, and stress-out big time.

If you don't fill the Edge right up, to give the betta decent surface area, it looks smeggin' 'orrible.

(2) If you fill the Edge right up with water, the way it's supposed to be, there is only a small surface area at which gas exchange can occur, in other words the water would not be hugely oxygenated, which therefore limits the stocking level

And of course, if you don't fill the Edge right up, to give decent surface area for decent oxygenation, it looks smeggin' 'orrible.

(3) A larger tank is easier to keep stable, because the greater volume keeps toxins diluted for longer.


And regarding the crayfish, if you get one, call it Ronnie or Reggie (Kray, geddit?) because it WILL murder the fish. Fins and pincers do not mix.

 

[fishprotector]

And regarding the crayfish, if you get one, call it Ronnie or Reggie (Kray, geddit?) because it WILL murder the fish. Fins and pincers do not mix.

That made me laugh!!!

I would say the Lido for the following reasons: ease of maintenance, more stocking options, bigger and therefore more stable tank.

 

[alginonuk]

Thanks for looking

So far then I get the idea that I should avoid the Fluval, the good thing about the Lido is that the footprint is not too different.

THe cost of the Lido does not include the table

I'm suprised that more people with Juwel tanks haven't replied, but guess I only put the thread on today.

Yeah that made me laught too, although wouldn't make me laugh if the crayfish ate all the otehr fish. Although I am suprised as my dad has a crayfish (don't know the type), he left the fish alone and was eventually chased out of the tank by the Rift Valley Cichlid.

Thanks
James

 

[Lufbramatt]

Get the biggest tank you can afford/ fit in your house. Easier to maintain, more choice of fish, will cost you less I'm the long run as you won't want a bigger tank after 3 months ;-) juwel make decent tanks, pretty 'no frills' but reliable.

 

[Ruskull]

So basically you're comparing a 12 US Gallon tank to a 32 US gallon tank right?

This is a no-brainer for me, I'd get the 120 liter because it's more bang for the buck. Looks of the tank don't matter too much to me since I get the tank for the fish, not the other way around.

 

[Cazgar]

The Edge is a great looking tank, I have the original one with a Betta in, but have to keep the water level about an inch from the top, which defeats the object of the tanks look
They are hard to keep clean due to the small opening & the new 46 litre is taller but still has that small opening so would be even trickier to maintain..
For the money, you could get a bigger tank with none of the fiddly maintenance issues

 

[alginonuk]

New choice in the mix

Just been down to same chain but different shop and I can get a Juwel Trigon 190 for €314 with table.

What do you think for aquascaping, or does this shape of tank cause problems?

Also can you install an external filter? As I read the filter isn't that great on the tank.

http/www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/trigon.htm

Thanks James

 

[Ruskull]

New choice in the mix

Just been down to same chain but different shop and I can get a Juwel Trigon 190 for €314 with table.

What do you think for aquascaping, or does this shape of tank cause problems?

Also can you install an external filter? As I read the filter isn't that great on the tank.

http/www.juwel-aquarium.de/en/trigon.htm

Thanks James

If you can afford it and fit it go and get it. Why mess around? Get the largest tank you can get so your stocking options aren't limited as much.

One downside is that the far corner of the tank will be harder to access for cleaning, and another negative is that some fish may decide to hang out in that far corner where you can't really see them. That's why I didn't go for the corner shaped tank.

 

[StandbySetting]

Bigger is better.

 

[Lufbramatt]

Trigons are cool tanks, big volume for the space they take up, but don't expect to be able to take decent photos of the fish as the curved glass distorts the picture. My father in law had a trigon 350 for a while, looked awesome. You have to think more vertically to scape them well, a nice tree stump/root feature works well to make the most of the extra height. They make really good marine tanks too as you can pile the live rock up high but keep it stable.