Upgrading To A Bigger Tank, How To?

sallyann

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I have one goldfish in a 16 litre tank and am wanting to get a bigger tank for him , I have had this goldfish for 10 years and have made lots of mistakes, including emtying the tank every 3 weeks and replacing the filter, then just adding safe water and popping him back in, its amazing he has lived for 10 years!!
His tank mate died last week and I have vowed to make his life netter, he is 3 inches long, excluding tail, what size tank will I need, room is a bit limited, I have been checking my water and it is good now, I have a fluvel plus 1 filter.

If i want to upgrade how do I go about it, and can I use the filter in my current tank to do a fishless cycle, or just add extra water to the new tank, I am a begginer, so have no idea.
 
What kind of goldfish is it? Most goldfish need around 10 gal of water per fish. Seeing that your fish is 10 yrs old and only 3" long, I'd say his growth has been stunted. If he is a common (pond) goldfish by 10 years he should be around 10-12 inches long. Fancy goldfish, (fantails, black moors,orandas,etc) at 10 years of age should be anywhere from 7 to 10 inches long. I have a 6 month old blue oranda and he is almost 3 inches excluding his tail.
If my calculation is correct 16 litres is close to 5 gallons. If this is the only fish you are going to keep I would at least get a 10 gal tank, a 20 gallon would be even better.But if his growth has been stunted I don't think he will grow even in the 20 gal. But he will be happy.
There is a sticky pinned in the New to the Hobby section about cycling your tank. You can add some of the filter media from your old tank to help start the cycle. But there will be a lot more to be done before adding your fish.
Hopefully other members will have some advice about your fish.
Good luck.
Tammy
 
Yes, Tammy is right, very good advice.

Doing lots of reading in the pinned topics and learning particularly about the nitrogen cycle and filters and how to do good water changes will be great for your goldfish.

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when you get your new tank you can simply transfer the gravel, water, filter and fish to the new tank. Then top up the new tank with some dechlorinated water. That way you won't have to worry about cycling the filter again and the water quality should remain fine.

If you are limited to space you can buy a tank that is wider and higher than normal, (NB you might have to get it made or order it in). This will give you more water volume but won't take up any more space lengthwise.
eg 1: you can buy a tank that is 2ft long x 2ft wide x 2ft high. It will hold a fair amount of water but only take up 2ft of space along the wall.
eg 2: 18x18x18inches will give you a bit of water but only take up 18inches of space along the wall.

Obviously the bigger the tank, the better. But if you don't have space or are limited to funds, just buy the biggest tank you can afford and that fits in the space.

If your goldfish has been in the tank for 10years you have been doing something right to keep it alive that long. Well done :)
 
Thanks for advice, going to look for a new tank next week, and get the biggest I can, I am intending to keep just one goldfish, the fish is kept in my son's bedroom and he is away at Uni at the moment, these fish were bought for him, 10 years ago. I have no where else to put the tank, and the bedroom is nice and quiet,I don't really want to move the fish as he has always been theri, god knows how he puts up with my son's terrible music!!!
 
maybe the fish likes the music. Do you ever see the fish bopping up and down :)
 
when people ask advice on tank sizes i always say the biggest you can aford and have room for. now part of me is obviously fish obsessed and likes nice big tanks, however that's not the only reason. a larger body of water is much much more stable, and therefore much easier to look after. small tanks the levels will fluctuate and it can be a nightmare.

it does seem poor goldie is stunted, however you're doing what you can now to make the rest of his life happy and peaceful and that's what's important now.

depending on the size of the tank you get you may need to get a new filter but by using it in tandem with the old filter you won't need to worry about your water levels, should go smoothly. Your filter is rated for tanks up to 45 litres, now the ratings are usually a bit optomistic so you can say it's really suitable for a 30-35 litre tank. So if you get something bigger than that you'll need to get another filter for it, just find out the size of the tank in gallons or litres and any filter you look at should have a rating on it to say what size tank it is suitable for. Brands I recommend are Eheim or Rena, fluvals are OK but they don't seem to last as long as the eheims.

here's my step by step guide to transferring tanks around

1 - set up new tank, make sure it is level and sat squarley on the stand (v important, if it's wrong the tank may crack at a later date and make a right old mess!)
2 - set up heater, new filter lights and any other equipment on the tank, just put them in place, do not switch them on
3 - fill new tank three quarters full with new water from the tap, add dechlorinator
4 - switch on the equipment, leave it running for 15 mins or so before doing anythng else, just to make sure there's no obvious problems, if you're getting a heater wait until the tank has reached the right temp.
5 - add your gravel (make sure it's washed first) and any plants or decorations you've got for the tank
6 - catch goldie and transfer him to the new tank. best way to catch fish is to drain the tank to half full, remove all decorations, get two nets one big and one small, hold the big net at one end of the tank, using the small net chase the goldie into the big net, when he's in swiftly pull it out of the water, gently hold the goldie through the net so he's not flapping around as he could hurt himself. as quickly as possible transfer him to the new tank and just plop him in
7 - turn off equipment on the old tank
8 - take the filter off the old tank and move it onto the new one, set it up and switch it on
9 - turn off the lights on the new tank, don't feed the fish for 24 hrs. keep an eye on him but you can expect him to be a bit disorientated and not exactly on top form at first, it's fairly stressful for them to move tanks, he should perk up in a day or two though.
10 - then strip down the old small tank, drain the water and sort everything out to be sold/thrown away as appropriate

you'll need to leave the old and new filters running in tandem for around a month, this means the bacteria from the old filter colonises the new filter. you can then remove the small filter (although you don't have to, it won't do any harm to have 2 filters running, plenty of people do it so that if one filter fails you have another one there doing something still)

hope that helps
 

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