Uh-ohhhhh

[kribensis12]

Tank size: 30 gallons
Inhabitants: now, 5 angelfish ( for pairing purposes)
Description of affliction: Absolutely nothing, helathy a couple hours ago
Temp: 82 degree's
Stats:
Ph: 7.8
Kh and Gh: cant read it
Nitrate: Ran out of solution for it
Nitrite: 0
Ammonia: 0

The only thing i can think of, is i didnt do my water change this monday, i have had alot of things going on, and am about to do the water change as we speak.

But what killed my female angel? She is a little over 1 year old. Has recently bred with a male ( Like 2 weeks ago), has been eating. I have been treating for Callamanus worms, but i havent seen any comming out of this angels anus. I also run copper in the tank to make sure that no more parasite eggs hatch.

I can get a pic if you want. But please reply soon.

 

[Tolak]

Without a dissection it's guesswork. Like other animals, including humans, a stroke, heart attack, or other traumatic internal event can affect them. As with other species, it can happen at a relatively young age, though not common.

 

[Colin_T]

Missing a water change is unlikely to kill a fish unless you have treated them and a water change is needed 24 hours after treatment to remove the medication.

Why do you run copper in the tank and do you run it all the time? If so then the fish might have died from kidney failure caused by excessive exposure to chemicals (namely copper).
Depending on what you are treating the camallanus worms with might be a contributing factor. It could also be a combination of copper and the worm medication.
Copper doesn't affect adult camallanus or their eggs/ young.

As Tolak mentioned, sudden death is usually caused by a stroke, heart attack or organ failure. And the only real way to tell what killed her is to have her autopsied by a fish vet.

When testing for nitrates, etc you can use a phial with half the water and half the amount of indicator solution. Basically if the nitrate test says to use 20ml of tank water and 10 drops of indicator solution, just use 10ml of tank water and 5 drops of solution. You get the same results and get twice the number of tests. You can't do this with every test kit but some can.

 

[kribensis12]

I am treating for copper to kill the Callamus eggs. I thought it would kill them, it says on the back of the thing " treats external parasites and eggs/larvae". So i figuerd that it would help. I only treat with copper when i belive that there is a parasite in there.

 

[Colin_T]

Copper will kill external skin parasites like costia, chilodonella, trichodina, Ich & Oodinium (whitespot & velvet) but worm eggs are tough and you have to wait until they hatch before you can kill the larvae. The same with whitespot, etc. They have various stages to their lifecycle and you can only kill them when they are in a particular stage of their life, (free swimming stage). When the whitespot parasite is attached to a fish it can't be treated and you must wait until it falls off the fish, multiplies in the gravel, and then hatches out. After it hatches out and before it attaches to a fish, is the only time it can be killed.

 

[kribensis12]

thanks for the info