Two Fish,two Problems

[fishcrzygirl81]

Hello. I have 2 male bettas with different problems.
Both are in 4.5 gallon,aerated,heated tanks.
I changed both of their water(full change) in the last two days.
Their diet consists of three different brands of betta pellets,freeze dried daphnia and bloodworms as a treat once a week or so.
I give them a fast day at least once a week as well.
I use amquel/novaqua for condtioners,never had a problem with that.

First,Elvis. He has developed fin rot,which seems to not be getting any worse. Now he seems lethargic and having a hard time swimming. He does seem a bit lopsided when he stops to rest. I do see a slight bulge on one his side,near his tail. He tends to stay in one corner of the tank or under his bridge not wanting to do much. Someone suggest sbd,so I am starting his fast today. I have added aquarium salt to his water when changing it. He is not any medications.

Morado. His stomach is a bit swollen. But does not look like pictures of dropsy. His scales do not stick out like pinecones. Just swollen around the stomach area. I gave him some daphnia last night. Can not tell if swelling went down any or not. Does not look any worse today though.

As for poop for both,I have not seen either go recently. Morado has substrate in his tank,so it can be hard to tell. Elvis has no substrate as of right now,and I see none in there.

Thanks for any help.

 

[WILDER]

Freeze dried foods can lead to constipation and swim bladder problems.
Don't over feed bloodworms as it can make fish bloat up. Only feed the freeze dried foods once or twice a week.
Need to improve there diet with more frozen foods and veg.

Cook some frozen peas for a few minutes.
Let cool down and pop out of shell, mush into small peicess and add to the tank.

What are your water stats in ammonia, nitrite, nitrate, and ph.

Signs of finrot are.
White or edging to tail.
Red streaking in fins.
Holes in fins.
Fins falling apart.
Raggy fins.
Tranlucent fins, or cloudy looking fins.
Slimey fins that stick together.

http/www.flippersandfins.net/SwimbladderDisease.htm

 

[fishcrzygirl81]

I will look into frozen food for them. Thanks.

 

[WILDER]

Did you read the link.

Info taken from the link.

Overfeeding/constipation: This the most common cause of SBD! Usually, the abdomen (belly) is swollen when a fish is constipated. Also, fish that gulp air at the water's surface when feeding can have swimbladder problems. The treatment is to withhold feeding for 24-72 hours or longer, and see if the constipation corrects itself. Examine what, how much and how often you are feeding the fish. Freeze-dried foods are notorious for causing constipation and swimbladder problems in fish.

 

[fishcrzygirl81]

Yes thanks. I will fast them, and see how that goes. Then I will look into getting better variety of food for them.

 

[WILDER]

I would feed the peas to flush them throw.

Good Luck.

 

[fishcrzygirl81]

I would feed the peas to flush them throw.

Good Luck.

Hmm okay..I will have to go buy some then. TY.