Tiger Barb Help

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HELP!!!!

New 10 gallon aquarium. three small tiger barbs, only fish in there. freshwater obviously.

One is acting wierd. sometimes color becomes pale and float vervically with head facting down. like a hadnstand position.

i feed them cooked turkey, small peices. no live plants, gravel and two plastic pants. carbon filter...

anyone know whats wrong!?!?! help!!!
 
HELP!!!!

New 10 gallon aquarium. three small tiger barbs, only fish in there. freshwater obviously.

One is acting wierd. sometimes color becomes pale and float vervically with head facting down. like a hadnstand position.

i feed them cooked turkey, small peices. no live plants, gravel and two plastic pants. carbon filter...

anyone know whats wrong!?!?! help!!!


what are you ammonia and nitrite stats?


also turkey is not a staple diet
 
New 10 gallon aquarium. three small tiger barbs, only fish in there. freshwater obviously.

Was this tank cycled prior to adding the Tigers?

One is acting wierd. sometimes color becomes pale and float vervically with head facting down. like a hadnstand position.

Mine will go pale and rest in that position at night when the lights are off. If they are doing that during the day however, something may be wrong. Based on your original comment, it seems the tank may not be cycled so there may be a build up of ammonia. IMO Tiger Barbs are not a good fish to start a fish-in cycle (whether or not you meant to). I learned this the hard way. :blush:
 
Do they look bloated.
Water stats like a member has asked for.
 
I dont have any water stats amonia levels nitrate or ph.

i know im a waste of life but its my first fish lol
i have been taking care of other fish my family member has though. she has like 12 guppies and just adds stilled water from time to time and cleans the filter. i thought i could get away with that.

im guess thr ph levels are off due to the discoloration and paleness, says the pet store.

i am going to change 10% of my water tomorrow when its cured. i hope they last that long =(

i will be getting tropical fish flakes as well tomorrow for them. i was a bit inequiped when i first got them. i admit i didnt realize how sensative things are. im sorry.

and no i didnt cycle my tank. i never heard of that before i got the tank and i have no live plants in there.

just a carbon filter and a carbon box filter. =/

sorry to disapoint.

anything i can do until i change water?

and no they are not bloated

thank you for all the help!!! ill let you know how things turned out =D
 
I dont have any water stats amonia levels nitrate or ph.

i know im a waste of life but its my first fish lol
i have been taking care of other fish my family member has though. she has like 12 guppies and just adds stilled water from time to time and cleans the filter. i thought i could get away with that.

im guess thr ph levels are off due to the discoloration and paleness, says the pet store.

i am going to change 10% of my water tomorrow when its cured. i hope they last that long =(

i will be getting tropical fish flakes as well tomorrow for them. i was a bit inequiped when i first got them. i admit i didnt realize how sensative things are. im sorry.

and no i didnt cycle my tank. i never heard of that before i got the tank and i have no live plants in there.

just a carbon filter and a carbon box filter. =/

sorry to disapoint.

anything i can do until i change water?

and no they are not bloated

thank you for all the help!!! ill let you know how things turned out =D

until you can get a test kit i recommend changing 20% 3 time a day i know i had to when doing a fish in cycle
 
Yes, DJ is right, you are in a "fish-in cycling situation" and that's written about in our "Beginners Resource Center" at the top of the "New to the Hobby" forum here.

You -do- need to do significant water changes until you can get a proper test kit. You also need to use good water change technique when doing these. You use tap water (not distilled water ever, although we'll also want you to post up your tap water stats right away when you get your kit) and you'll need to add "conditioner" (a liquid chemical product from the local fish store that removes chlorine and/or chloramines which are harmful to both fish and the bacteria we need you to grow in your new filter.) You also need to roughly temperature match (your hand is good enough) this conditioned water before it goes into the tank. Since you're in New Jersey (USA) you probably have a typical hot water tank that's fiberglass lined inside and so using a mix of hot and cold from the tap to do the temperature matching should be fine.

The test kit is important. Many of us like and use the API Freshwater Master Test Kit. It has tests for ammonia, nitrite(NO2), pH and nitrate(NO3). The ammonia and nitrite(NO2) are the really important toxic things we have to worry about for the health of the fish.

Its also going to be important for you to work out the right types of media (sponges, floss, etc. in filter) early on so that you will have a good home in your filter for the correct two species of bacteria to grow to become your "biofilter!" Carbon is not the ideal material for a good biofilter. Its correct use is as a "chemical" media for removing medications, removing yellow tannins from bogwood and occasional things like that. It shouldn't be in the filter on an ongoing basis usually, because the way its properly used is to remove it every 3 days, which is how quickly it fills up with meds etc.

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thanks everyone all your suggestions are great! i will get on the test kit right away. im about to do a water change in 45 minutes cuz the water i have has to cure
 
thanks everyone all your suggestions are great! i will get on the test kit right away. im about to do a water change in 45 minutes cuz the water i have has to cure
If you have researched your local tap water and know for sure that they use chlorine ( and not chloramine) then you can indeed "cure" the water and have the chlorine "gas out" rather than using conditioner. Otherwise, there aren't too many reasons to cure tap water.

The flip side to this is that "conditioner" (for instance, Seachem Prime) is relatively cheap insurance and it does other things like rendering ammonia harmless and binding up heavy metals. Sometimes a water service does indeed use chlorine, so the aquarist just doesn't use conditioner, but then the water service switches to chloramines without the user knowing and the fish die.

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is it possible to have my local pet store contain my fish for a few days and for me to strat my tank over? do it right?

cycle my water add the conditioner and such?
 
is it possible to have my local pet store contain my fish for a few days and for me to strat my tank over? do it right?

cycle my water add the conditioner and such?

It's worth asking! Some LFS will temporarily take them in (I know an LFS in my area that will actually babysit while you are gone), or you can bring them back for an exchange/refund/store credit.
 
Yes, definately work asking, as Mancin says, you never know when you might have run into a customer-friendly LFS.. sounds like his is positively innovative!

Much more likely though will be the response where the LFS will claim that fishless cycling like we are telling you about is unneeded and you should just drop the fish into plain water after a week (with the implicit assumption that if they die you can just buy some more, lol.)

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and quick question...

im not going to do it...

just a theory.

vinegar can lower ph levels in water because it is acidic...
i was wondering if anyone knew if the tiniest bit of vinegar (1 drop or 2) would lower my ph level in my tank a bit.

does anyone know if it would be poisonous to the fish?
 
No earthly idea! Accepted practice for lowering pH is considered much harder than raising pH. Raising pH is just crushed coral in the filter. Lowering pH gets into different techniques, a couple of which are peat in the filter or, most serious of all, getting an RO unit and doing mixtures of that water with tap water.

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