This Stuff Work?

[CBBP]

http/www.petsmart.com/global/product_det...sText=cycle&N=2

it says it has the bacteria I need in it.. is this true?

 

[SiriusStarr]

It does indeed work ^^

Thats what we sell the most of at the LFS I work at! =D

 

[CBBP]

It does indeed work ^^

Thats what we sell the most of at the LFS I work at! =D

so if I put thsi stuff in it will giv eme the bacteria I need to cycle my tank?!!!

Should I just worry about dosing once or should I go all out and ge tthe 67 oz?

 

[Dorkhedeos]

i dont know if cycle works, but im sure bio spira works

 

[SiriusStarr]

so if I put thsi stuff in it will giv eme the bacteria I need to cycle my tank?!!!

Should I just worry about dosing once or should I go all out and ge tthe 67 oz?

Yes, it will give you the bacteria you need.

What we tell our customers is to use double the dose for the first 7 days, and then use it once weekly after, just a normal dose =)

So depending on the size of your tank, you'll have to decide what size bottle... I'd say 30-50 gals you'd want a medium bottle, 55+ a large one, under 30, just a smaller one would do

 

[CBBP]

so if I put thsi stuff in it will giv eme the bacteria I need to cycle my tank?!!!

Should I just worry about dosing once or should I go all out and ge tthe 67 oz?

Yes, it will give you the bacteria you need.

What we tell our customers is to use double the dose for the first 7 days, and then use it once weekly after, just a normal dose =)

So depending on the size of your tank, you'll have to decide what size bottle... I'd say 30-50 gals you'd want a medium bottle, 55+ a large one, under 30, just a smaller one would do

if it gives you the bnacteria why do you need contiunied doses? shoudl they not get in the filter and flourish? and should you dump in tank or poor al over ther filter media and let it sit for an hour or so?

 

[SiriusStarr]

I suppose you *could* just put it in the filter, but I doubt that'd make it get into your sponge any faster...

As for continued doses, if your tank is just starting, there's no bacteria in it... so you need to add more to get the numbers up there =)

 

[Bignose]

SS, you may sell it at the LFS you work at, but that is just the problem, you are definitely providing a biased point of view. In post 6, cardboard is exactly right, once the tank is fully cycled there is no reason whatsoever to keep adding bacteria to the tank. Once the level of ammonia production by the fish equals the level of ammonia processing by the bacteria, the growth rate of the bacterial colony is zero.

At the very least, the extra bacteria serve no purpose, starve and die and would temporarily increase the pollution level in the tank... this is really just throwing money away. And, there is splotchy evidence at best that cycle works, even bio-spira seems very hit and miss. Bio-spira that has not been constantly refrigerated is mostly useless.

The bacterial strain in cycle is not even the one recent scientific studies have found that is predominant is home aquaria. See, Hovanec and DeLong, Applied and Environmental Microbiology p. 2888-2896, 1996. for example. This is part of the reason is seems that bio-spira is more successful, it contains the species of bacteria more prevalent in home aquaria.

Finally, if you search through the old posts, I cannot think of a single product that has worked even around 50% of the time. I certainly have not read every post, but nothing at all comes to mind. Companies have been selling these products for quite a few years now, and nothing yet has beaten good ol' patience and water changes to keep the pollution levels low, in my opinion.

 

[SiriusStarr]

Sorry...

Its just worked for the majority of our customers. So I thought it would be okay to explain... Sorry =\

 

[Bignose]

SS, I hope you didn't take that personally, but of course a shop wants you to put some in every week... the shop wants you to come back and buy more. But, it is just unnecessary. I mean, how did people keep fish before cycle was created? If you think it through, there is absolutely no reason that more bacteria should be needed every week once the tank is cycled.

 

[Synirr]

I'm not sure I understand how the bacteria in Cycle are even supposed to stay alive. Bio-Spira is frozen which inhibits bacterial growth and thus allows the bacteria to survive without sustenance until you put it in your aquarium and it warms up, but how do the bacteria in Cycle live? Do they survive off something in the bottle, or...? I'd expect it to have a much shorter shelf life than it does if that's the case...

 

[andywg]

Sorry...

Its just worked for the majority of our customers. So I thought it would be okay to explain... Sorry =\

How do you know it works? Have the cutomers performed daily tests to show how the tanks is cycled after adding? Have they somehow measured the bacteria levels in the tank pre and post addition? Or have they actually just performed a fish cycle and not measured their ammonia stats but haven't lost any fish?

As has previously been said, the bottled bacteria rarely work for one main reason, they need food to stay alive, and that food is a source of ammonia. I don't see how a simple bottle of liquid can provide the ammonia over a constant period to allow it to survive transport. Also, the bottle is not going to have a great surface area for the bacteria to thrive on, so you are not going to be dosing with a large amount.