The hidden lives of fish

[Allix]

The hidden lives of fish

Just been reading this and found it very informative

 

[SPLiSH]

That's a great article Allix.

I eat fish, but only when my parents serve it for dinner or when it would be rude to refuse it. (Like if a friends parents serve it.) I like the taste, but not the story behind it.

Also, one thing I will NEVER do is fish for 'sport'. I don't mean to offend anyone, but my idea of fun is not trying to cause pain and maybe death to an innocent animal. Especially if this animal is of a sort that I devote my free time and money to caring for. I wouldn't purposely cause pain to my betta, in fact I go to heaps of trouble to prevent harm or illness to him. Just because I don't keep tuna, swordfish or whatever as pets, doesn't mean they have any lesser right to a happy life.

 

[Isis_Nebthet]

I almost didn't read it when I saw it was afiliated with PETA.

Fine points but if you look around their site enough you'll find they think people keeping animals at all is cruel.


I've never cared for the taste of fish I can ocassionly do tuna or fishsticks (as a sandwich drenched in mustard....my grandmother got me to eat orange roughie when I was little because I wanted the lemon lol). When my predators get a bit bigger I'll be buying lots of fish for them though.

 

[abstract]

fishing for sport shouldn't cause any pain or death if you do it properly....off topic, sorry, but had to be said

i just don't buy that fish "suffer and are in pain" when impaled in the mouth..IMO it is their natural instinct to resist that makes it seem so....just as us humans resist similar situations even when not in pain or suffering

 

[jacblades]

Fine points but if you look around their site enough you'll find they think people keeping animals at all is cruel.

perhaps this should be shut down befoe it gets out of hand because surely it soon will...
it will be another kfc thread...

but anyways, to jump in and start fighting...

nowhere on peta's website does it say they are agaist keeping animals. please investigate a little before you start to make accusations. peta actually promotes keeping all dogs and cats indoors (or in a fenced yard for some dogs)
peta has an "aqua-torture" page dedicated to providing information about dyed fish, aquababies the cruelty of keeping bettas in cups. if you look on this forum, i think you will find that most members here are probably against dyed fish, aquababies and 6 ounce betta cups.
http/www.peta.org/feat/aquab/

nowhere on that page does it even say that keeping fish in aquariums at all is bad.

fish are friends not food

 

[OohFeeshy]

i just don't buy that fish "suffer and are in pain" when impaled in the mouth..IMO it is their natural instinct to resist that makes it seem so....just as us humans resist similar situations even when not in pain or suffering

Why not? Fish also suffocate to death when you go fishing. At least most of the time. Although, TBH, fishing is just as cruel as slaughtering other animals for meat.

 

[bettaboi]

evn if fishing is cruel you will NEVER get everyone to stop it just will not happen i fish but i figure catch and release (what i use) is better than just killing it and if you know what you are doing a fish should never die when you are fishing

 

[abstract]

i just don't buy that fish "suffer and are in pain" when impaled in the mouth..IMO it is their natural instinct to resist that makes it seem so....just as us humans resist similar situations even when not in pain or suffering

Why not? Fish also suffocate to death when you go fishing. At least most of the time. Although, TBH, fishing is just as cruel as slaughtering other animals for meat.

if you aren't catching and releasing (which i do, mind you), and you are fishing PROPERLY (which i stated, but didn't get quoted lol), no fish you keep should suffocate to death....most/all responsible fisherman either beat the fish over the head (pretty cruel, i agree), or decapitate it on the spot (what are two of the most efficient way to euthanise a fish again? oh yea concussion and then decapitation)....i find it hard to believe that people let the fish suffocate "most of the time"

and TBH with you (and not to start a flame war or anything), but fishing should NOT be compared to slaughtering animals....catching and releasing, which many people do, does not even come close to raising an animal til it's fat and killing it...although i would have to agree that large scale fishing/netting operations are disgusting and cruel as can be....if there's anything i disagree with more it is using mile wide nets to catch everything possible in the ocean....

but how is goign out, catching a dozen fish, keeping a couple to feed the family, in any way different from going to the supermarket to buy some chicken for dinner, or stopping at a fast food place on the way home for a burger with the kids?

 

[Synirr]

I think PETA's heart is in the right place, I just wish their mind would follow
That's all I've really got to say about it... extremist groups, no matter how good their cause may be, almost always go about things the wrong way.

 

[Grey Legion]

This post will get out of hand because everyone has there own views on the subjects of keep animals, catching animals, and hunting animals.

It was a good read and I enjoyed getting some new knowledge out of it..


I have my own views, but will keep them to myself...all I really want to say is respect what people have to say, even if it is stupid to you, it means something to them and trashing on someone for sharing there view is cruel...

 

[Isis_Nebthet]

"PETA beleives that animals have rights and deserve to have their best interest taken into consideration, regardless of whether they are useful to humans. Like you they are capable of suffering and have an interest in their own lives; therefore, they are not ours to use-for food, clothing, entertainment, or any other reason."

The last two bits to me would add up to pets are bad......

"But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive. "

http/www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=29

"Please don’t support the tropical fish trade by purchasing fish. If you enjoy watching fish, consider downloading one of the many colorful and realistic fish computer screensavers available on the Web. Don’t support businesses or fairs that give fish away in contests or promotions."

http/www.peta.org/mc/factsheet_display.asp?ID=30

I took all of ten minutes to find these....and I wasn't even looking hard.

Keeping cows from being killed while conscious (or not promoting live fish as prizes or dying them) is fine with me but being someone with about 80 fish and 4 wolfdogs (who do need meat in their diet)....I can't agree with the long term goals of PETA.

 

[NinjaSmurf]

Um.... I like fish. In my tank and on my plate. I try to eat fish I catch however, unless it is something like crabs or shrimp (or it's breaded fish, because we are lazy lol), which I can't exactly go down to the river and catch (unless I bought a house with a huge pond and raised a type of freshwater shrimp ) And when I fish I throw back what is too small.

I don't think it will turn into an all out brawl, but I could be wrong...

It'll be fun either way






*Was that too heavy on the sarcasm?*

*Yes.*

*Darn!*

 

[bluefire]

people catching and eating fish is just nature, other fish even do it. i don't know what all the fuss is about as long as people arent being especially cruel to them.

 

[Allix]

people catching and eating fish is just nature, other fish even do it. i don't know what all the fuss is about as long as people arent being especially cruel to them.

other fish catch people and eat them?

 

[CFC]

Sharks are fish and yes they do on occasion catch people and eat them plus there are catfish in the Amazon and Mekong river systems that have been known to snack on the odd child paddling in the water!