Tetra Safe Start

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i have bought a bottle of tetra safe start for my 10gallon i dont really no if its a great product so i was wondering if i put it in the tank then add ammonia about one ml a day for a week to see if it has worked is this ok to do
 
I'd suggest adding it and then adding 1ppm ammonia to the tank, not just a set volume (and not adding it daily, add it only when the ammonia is gone).
 
Then test the ammonia and nitrite daily.  If they both reach zero in 24 hours, then you can up the dose to 2ppm. 
 
ok so add it now and 1ppm ammonia then kerp testing till amo and nit at zero then up the dose yeh
 
Ive used it before and it does the job  :) seachem stability is a good one to use as well probably a bit more expensive :)
 
I would suggest following their directions.
 
If you are using ammonia to insure a good cycle, I see no reason not to use a 3 ppm dose unless Tetra advises against it.
 
SeaChem Stability contains no live bacteria. This means it contains none of the autotrophic bacteria desired in a cycled tank.
 
I think I remember them saying that 'high' ammonia can inhibit their bacteria, which is why I suggested 1ppm.
 
OK here is the best I could find and it is from 2009 so it may be outdated. It is from another forum that lets one ask Tetra questions. The thread is titled

Q & A With Tetra about Tetra SafeStart
here is an excerpt:
 
Hi there,

Wow, lots of questions! All are pretty simple, and we get them a lot too. I'll suggest marketing address them on our website, next time they update it. Out of curiosity, what forum is it?

So...where to begin? First, ideally you should set up the tank, and let it run at least 24 hours, then, shortly before you head off to the store for your first fish, add TSS to the tank. Within two hours, you should
add the fish. Our normal recommendation is to add one small fish per ten gallons of water. However, you CAN fully stock the tank, you just need to keep a close eye on it, and be sure to not complicate matters by overfeeding as well. We recommend this method for African cichlid tanks since it is best to fully stock such a tank from the beginning due to territorial issues. For a novice fish-keeper, we'd recommend the one small fish per ten gallons rule for the first two weeks. Within two weeks, TSS should have fully cycled the tank and they can start slowly adding more fish, one at a time.

In regards to ammonia products, yes, they kill TSS. Any type, whether a chloramines remover or detoxifier, etc, anything that says it locks up ammonia or removes ammonia. Do not add TSS for 24 hours after using such a product, and do not add such a product for at least 7 days after using TSS. The bacteria is housed in a special stabilized solution of ammonia, so if you remove/lock up the ammonia, you remove all of the food the bacteria require to live.

If you already have fish, and are having an ammonia issue, it is best to get the ammonia levels down to below 4.0. 4.0 and higher is just as toxic to TSS as it is to fish. While 2.0 -3.5 ppm ammonia may harm some of the TSS bacteria, it should still have some effect. You may want to do a second dose several days after adding the first one, if you are not seeing the results you want. Keep in mind, these are bacteria, not a chemical, so results are slow to see. Give the product at least 5-7 days.
 
The above quote comes from thread on a site that TFF will not allow me to post a link to. Therefore is any reader would like to know where the above originated and have the link to this site in order to read it all, you may PM me and I will be happy to email it to you.
 
TSS has everything needed to quickly get your tank cycled and is designed to be used with fish in the tank. I've used it and would recommend it to anyone doing a fish in cycle.
 
A fishless cycle is best and that requires pure ammonia. Do not add ammonia to a tank with fish in it.
 

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