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well what does hardness mean and ph? also i ahve a 10 gallon unused what could i put in there?
 
you can go to any fish store or pet store and ask for the pH tester and other testers

it will tell you the ph level

some fish like it high, some like it low


as for the 10 gallon, it all depends on what your looking for, colour, etc etc...
 
to be honest..not much, but a pair of dwarf cichlids might be nice.. Apissto. agassizi perhaps.. or if you like less work, kribs (Pelvicachromis pulcher), or its colourful cousin, pelv. taeniatus.

If you regularly do maintenance, then with a bit of time you should be able to add a pair of otocinclus catfish,
If you don't fancy cichlids, theres always a shoal of tetras, or danios - some of them can be eye catching.
A male betta, and some smaller fish (neon tetra, zebra danio) might look nice too, but not sure on compatibility there..

PH is a measure of the acidity of the water. 7.0 is neutral, anything lower is acidic, which generally favours south American fish, and anything higher is alkaline, which generally favours african fish, there is exceptions to both of these cases tho.
Be warned tho, that acidity on this scale is logarithmic, as oppose to the normal linear scale. so PH 6 is not 1 unit stronger that PH 7, it's actually 10 times as acidic as PH 7. like wise, PH 5 is 10 times stronger than PH6, but, PH 5 is 100 times stronger that PH 7. In the alakine case, PH 8 is 1\10 of PH7, PH 9 1\10th of PH 8, and like wise, PH 9 is 1\100th the strength of PH 7.

Hardness, or water hardness, is down to calcium levels. easiest way to test this, do you have to scrub, hard and use lots of soap to get a lather? or can you fumble your hands around the bar a few times, and wash loosely, and get a lather? If your water is hard to get a lather in, its hard, if its easy, it's soft. There is also test kits to get an accurate reading. You would be better with an accurate reading, it help you make a decision on fish. Find something that lives in your tap water conditions, and you will save a fortune on water treatments, because the only thing you will need to add is de-chlorinator :good:
 
Sorry to contradict (no offense intended :D ) but i wouldn't put a pair of Apissto's in a 10 gal and certainly not Kribs, IMO a 20 gal is the minimum size for these fish.

There are some African shell-dweller species that are suitable for a 10 gal but i would say thats it as far as cichlids are concerned for a tank that size.

Just my thoughts.
 
Before we answer any more of champ's posts I think we need to establish the following:

how many tanks has he actually got

what size tanks has he actually got

what fish has he got

and

what is his object- if you remember, his first post was asking our advice since his convicts, bought expressly to eat his danios, were failing to do so

I may be an eternal optimist, but I find it hard to believe in an lfs that deliberately sells him convicts as danio-eaters. Though perhaps it would be expecting a bit much for them to inform him that the mollies etc no doubt died a natural death (result of overstocking, I'd say) and the danios were simply snacking on dead or dying fish.

We also need to inform champ of some minor points of forum etiquette:

multiple posts asking the same question (particularly if you've had an answer) are not encouraged, nor are they very encouraging to those members who have already answered

changing goal posts (I have a 10 gallon tank, oh no, it's 15 gallon, well, actually it's 30) make it very difficult to give exact answers, and eventually makes members lose their belief in a poster ( we do get some posters who just make things up)
 
Thanks for the pointer Ferris :) I was thinking if he kept only the 2 then nothing major should arrise..but i guess i was wrong. I suppose they are sensitive fish and keeping more water, means it stays more stable.. i guess this is your reason for suggesting 20 gal?
 
Thanks for the pointer Ferris I was thinking if he kept only the 2 then nothing major should arrise..but i guess i was wrong. I suppose they are sensitive fish and keeping more water, means it stays more stable.. i guess this is your reason for suggesting 20 gal?

Actually its more the fact that they are cichlids and prone to aggression, especially the Kribs, they really need some room, 20 gal minimum IMO. Apissto's you may get away with in a 10 gal but i certainly wouldn't do it. Rather than squeeze them in a 10 gal, I'd rather give them a good home in a 20 gal or bigger. :)
 
i saw some big kribs a few months ago nearly 4" so i would want them in a 10g either.

10g can only fit shell dwellers?

:good:
 
spose thats why Husbands have sheds/garages, and wifes have kitchens/living rooms ! Poor fishy can't close the door and turn the music up

:lol: :lol: :lol:

:good:
 

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