Suggest Any Fish For A Tank

[champb21]

what do u suggest in fish i should put in a 30 gallon tank?

 

[saboy]

Geees, you bought a 30 gallon in a matter of about 8 hours ?



I thought you were gonna put the convicts in here ? if you want them to live a good life that is instead of a 15 gallon.

 

[champb21]

my friend buying me one soon im just saying what should i put in there? and i still need to find those upload those pictures

 

[saboy]

go to imageshack.us after you uploaded the pics, then you get a link, copy and paste the link into the reply form where you type, then it should work

 

[SamUK]

your friends buying you a tank?


awful nice of him/her.


im with saboy tho, if you have a 10 and a 30 to stock (according to your posts).

what have you done with your other fish?

 

[vancouver]

so I've seen that you have a 10g tank.. now u have a 30g tank.. now you don't have it but you're getting it?

 

[SamUK]

hes made another thread asking the same questions about cons in the begginers forum.


hate people that dont listen.

 

[saboy]

HHHHMMMM, he/you seeem to be all over the place with what you want to do with the tanks and fish.



But we are here to help you and tell you whats best !

 

[McMurray]

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[SamUK]

Cichlids comprise a large family of freshwater fish. They are found in North, Central and South America, Africa, and a few species in Asia. Cichlids are popular because they are hardy, grow quickly, and have interesting behavior. They also exhibit fascinating breeding patterns and are one of the few families of fish that care for their young. Cichlids like to establish territories in the tank, and this sometimes leads to conflicts and "aggressive" behavior. If you set-up a Cichlid tank properly you will be able to enjoy a truly fascinating tank. Be sure to purchase a book on Cichlids.

Tank Conditions: This community tank is suitable for tanks 20 gallon or more with standard filtration and heating. (For filtration i recommend an undergravel filter and an outside power filter.) Because many of these fish will grow, best results are obtained if you use a tank of 30 gallons or more. Plastic plants are best because these fish may uproot live plants. Temperature range 75-82. Maintain at least 1 tablespoon of salt per 5 gallons. Decorate with a variety of rocks and hiding spots. Make sure all fish are of similar size. You can purchase Cichlids in singles or groups. Keep the tank well populated, and the fish will not try to establish territories. Therefore fighting will be reduced. When adding new fish, rearrange ornaments (territories) to reduce aggression.

Feeding: One advantage of these community fish is that you don’t have to feed them as frequently. Feed once or twice a day with standard foods such as Doromin, brine shrimp, plankton, bloodworms and algae tablets for your catfish. An occasional missed feeding will not hurt. Larger fish can be fed pellets and krill. Occasional live food such as live brine, ghost shrimp, guppies, or small goldfish is recommended for best color.

Fish Choices:

(Fish should be of similar size.)
Barbs: Large Rosy Barb, Large Tiger Barb, Tinfoil Barb

Catfish: Channel Catfish, Plecostomus Catfish, Pimodella Catfish, Porthole Catfish

Cichlids: Blue Acara Cichlid, African Mouthbrooder, Convict Cichlid, Festae Cichlid, Firemouth Cichlid, Green Terror Cichlid, Jack Dempsey Cichlid, Manganese Cichlid, Pike Cichlid, Port Cichlid, Rainbow Cichlid, Red Devil Cichlid, Red Tilapia Cichlid, Salvani Cichlid, Sunray Cichlid, Texas Cichlid

Eels: Large Fire Eel

Knifefish: Large African Knifefish

Rainbowfish: Large Australian Rainbowfish

Sharks: Black Shark, Iridescent Shark, Red Tail Shark, Red Rainbow Shark

Other Fish: Large Chinese Algae Eater, Annostomus, Snakehead, Wolf fish, Abrimites Headstander, Pacu

thats really not good info.

way too vague and some is jus plain wrong.

 

[dwarfgourami]

McMurray, you do need to get a bit more experience under your belt before you start writing these general information posts. I've just gone through your livebearer one, and I'm not sure I've got the energy to do the whole thing over again- besides, with cichlids this sort of vagueness is a lot more dangerous. And where do you get the compatible-fish-list from? Have you actually kept these fish? Do you know how big an irridescent shark grows, or what the habits of mature Chinese Algae eaters are?
You don't even mention the most basic part of all cichlid keeping: that cichlids from different parts of the world have different requirements. And that overstocking may be recommended for African cichlids but not usually for South Americans. Some cichlids are territorial to the point where you can't simply cram lots in and expect them to forget about territory. Not to mention what this would do to your water stats, in the case of the larger bodied Americans. Cichlid salts are not recommended for all cichlids. And most cichlid keepers do not recommend feeder guppies or d goldfish because of their low nutritional value and the risk of infection.
Anyway, are you aware that it would be quite possible for someone to read this post and come away with the impression that they can stock their 40 gallon tank with a group of Jack Dempseys and and Irridescent shark?

 

[McMurray]

I posted it as a general direction they should look. of course they need to look into the sizes and amout of fish but the list i have made of the fish will live together. i am busy with making a database of fish that are compatible with each other and i am picking the information up from the internet this site but i can not be sure if the information that i am gaining from the internet is 100% until people like you point this out. But unless you have kept every fish in the world you will never know what lives with others well.

People who ask for an idea for a tank population should take any information as an idea and not as black and white as i know and you know you cant fit 1000 fish into a 10ltr tank.

if you took every thing as black and white then most tank setups wouldnt be around.


Currently i have three tanks.

and one tank is a livebearer community tank 350 ltr with no problems and the other is a standard non live bearer small fish community tank again 350ltr.

The third tank is cycling and i havent decided what i want in it as yet. but this is a 1200ltr tank

however if you were to write out exactly what people need per tank size and situation then there ar far more things you should be looknig at.

Like Light frequency if installing t5 or t8 lamps as certain fish react against T5.
Also types of stones or sand as certain stones can be incorect for the tank Like sand stone and limestone

there is so much informtaion you can give but if you give them a general direction to look at then it is up to them to do more research as every situation is different.

 

[dwarfgourami]

I posted it as a general direction they should look. of course they need to look into the sizes and amout of fish but the list i have made of the fish will live together. i am busy with making a database of fish that are compatible with each other and i am picking the information up from the internet this site

I appreciate your difficulty, but I'm not sure there is much point in posting a general topic unless it conveys better information, more detailed or accurate, than is already in the pinned topics and/or you have special experience to build on.

IMO any general post on cichlids ought to convey the following information:

cichlids come from a number of different biotopes; on the whole, these tend to have such different requirements (inlcuding things like cichlid salts) that they cannot be housed together and that very little general information can be given that covers more than one group

even with similar biotopes (the different African lakes) differences in behaviour may be such that the cichlids can not be housed together

the sensible plan for any would-be cichlid keeper therefore is to decide first on what type of cichlids he want to house and then purchase the book that covers that particular group

only dwarf cichlids or shelldwellers can be housed in tanks 20 gallons and under

even within the same group/biotope it is essential to read up on the requirements/likely level of aggression etc of individual species

when it comes to companions, their size and waste production must be taken into account. Fish such as irridescent sharks are not usually suitable for hobbyists tanks as they need massive amounts of room (Schliewen suggests 1500 gallons); nor are many hobbyists able to provide the filtration to house a fully grown group of pacus ON TOP of one or more large cichlids.

If information is so vague that it may only cover one or two of the species listed...it should not be offered as general information.

Sorry to sound negative, but information you have just gleaned off the internet without being able to judge its value, is not so much help- we all know how to google- and can actually lead a newbie astray. What people look for in a forum like this is either extensive reading or (preferably) long term own experience.

 

[SamUK]

dwarf gourami is right.


its a good effort and could be very helpful but you cant really generalise something like cichlids so its probably best not to try.

or if you do you have to be a bit less specific than cichlids need this and cichlids need that.


your post seems to talk mainly about african cichlid behaviour with feeding times and terrotorial behaviour needing overstocked tanks.


maybe change the title to an "intro to africans" and edit it a bit to be more specific.

 

[plantropimunity]

i have to agree with the assesments made in this thread.
I keep a cichlid tank, and i would have been pretty upset if i was led to believe that i could mix any cichlids as long as i put enough of them in the same tank. as for the overstocking to eliminate fish's efforts to establish territories, i believe this is just plain incorrect. overstocking works because in a large group of fish, there is a better chance that no single fish will take on another's full out charge to defend a territory.
that said, i appreciate the fact that people make the effort to help out, and i believe that noone should use any less than three corroborating sources as evidence of anything.
McMurray, I believe your intentions are good, but a bit more research or even better, experience, is needed before attempting a post of this type. best of luck to you