Sucken stomach baby guppy

[GaryE]

What is your water hardness? Do you see any films anywhere on the affected fish?

As well, those are very small tanks for the number of fish you intend to raise. That right there could be the root of the problem.

 

[emeraldking]

So they all caught cramped fin at one point so bad there fins looked glued together so I consulted a Budd of mine who told me I should start cleaning more often so I did and ever since then I lost more than half I originally have 65 baby fish with in last 5 months I have about 12 boys left and maybe 20 females left

That was not the best advice given. Sorry to say...

 

[Tainobambino95]

Well, cleaning your filters so often doesn't do any good for these fish. If you do that, the filter media can not keep the bacteria culture at a good level. I also don't know why you're cleaning so often.

That could mean that they've got internal parasites or even worms.

So they all caught cramped fin at one point so bad there fins looked glued together so I consulted a Budd of mine who told me I should start cleaning more often so I did and ever since then I lost more than half I originally have 65 baby fish with in last 5 months I have about 12 boys left and maybe 20 females left

 

[Tainobambino95]

Thank you hopefully I can get out to the store soon sucks you know to raise them from fry to seeing them develop colors is amazing and then to have to lose them

 

[Tainobambino95]

Should I try a salt bath ?

 

[Abaddon]

Should I try a salt bath ?

Salt is generally not that effective against internal parasites, it's mostly an external treatment for superficial skin & gill issues. But you can always try - just make sure to follow the correct dosage and be aware that it can damage live plants. I'd go with a more targeted medication first, though, if you can.

 

[GaryE]

Assuming your water is at least medium hard, you need to get at the root of the problem. You are way overcrowded and therefore almost guaranteed, failure.
Keep up the water changes, and salt treatment could help, depending what it is. Fish don't catch clamped fins. It's a symptom of a bunch of possible problems, many parasitic.
I once visited a small tank guppy breeding installation. His group were in 20 gallon tanks, separated by sex. They were more crowded than any show tank keeper would consider, but he did several water changes a week. His pairs were in 3.5 gallon tanks, for mating only.

 

[Lcc86]

Nothing to add except your tanks are way way way too small for the stocking you have. While that won't be the cause of the issues ot might well be contributing to them. Your fish may be stressed due to overcrowding which may make them more susceptible to illness etc.

 

[Tainobambino95]

What is your water hardness? Do you see any films anywhere on the affected fish?

As well, those are very small tanks for the number of fish you intend to raise. That right there could be the root of the problem.

No there all under 5 months so it's hard to tell cause colors are still developing but I lost another 5 today

 

[Tainobambino95]

Salt is generally not that effective against internal parasites, it's mostly an external treatment for superficial skin & gill issues. But you can always try - just make sure to follow the correct dosage and be aware that it can damage live plants. I'd go with a more targeted medication first, though, if you can.

So right now I don't have the funds for it the only store near by I walmart and there only showing one brand they carry and it's 50 bucks for the bottle

 

[Tainobambino95]

Assuming your water is at least medium hard, you need to get at the root of the problem. You are way overcrowded and therefore almost guaranteed, failure.
Keep up the water changes, and salt treatment could help, depending what it is. Fish don't catch clamped fins. It's a symptom of a bunch of possible problems, many parasitic.
I once visited a small tank guppy breeding installation. His group were in 20 gallon tanks, separated by sex. They were more crowded than any show tank keeper would consider, but he did several water changes a week. His pairs were in 3.5 gallon tanks, for mating only.

So right now all my tanks are pretty much empty compared to before I originally had about 25 males and 40 females off of one fish these past 5 months everything was going good until they had clamped fins when I started the water changes there fins fanned out everything was going good then my main female died then the next one I intended on breeded was to go and ever since then it's been one by one today I've already lost 5 and it's starting to look as if almost the color on scales are turning Grey brownish color

 

[Tainobambino95]

Assuming your water is at least medium hard, you need to get at the root of the problem. You are way overcrowded and therefore almost guaranteed, failure.
Keep up the water changes, and salt treatment could help, depending what it is. Fish don't catch clamped fins. It's a symptom of a bunch of possible problems, many parasitic.
I once visited a small tank guppy breeding installation. His group were in 20 gallon tanks, separated by sex. They were more crowded than any show tank keeper would consider, but he did several water changes a week. His pairs were in 3.5 gallon tanks, for mating only.

Hey so quick question table salt contains iodine with is harmful to fish but would pink Himalayan salt work

 

[GaryE]

If I use salt (which I don't believe will help much), I use kosher, pickling or sea salt, bought from a bulk bin cooking supply store for very cheap. Pink Himalayan salt is expensive!

 

[Abaddon]

Test The Water
You can take a sample to a pet store and ask them to test it for you if you can't do it at home, it's not ideal but better than nothing. Otherwise you're going in blind. If the water quality is off then even if you manage to cure them this time, the problem will most likely return. You really do need to stay on top of parameters, especially with that level of overstocking. Alternatively, you could upgrade the tanks or reduce the number of fish you keep. Overstocking an uncycled or unbalanced tank (which is *probably* the case here) is always going to lead to problems.
For the time being keep doing water changes (with conditioned/dechlorinated & temperature-matched water!), but leave the filters alone (and if you do decide to clean them, just swish the media around in old tank water, NOT tap water & especially not running tap water). You can also add some live nitrifying bacteria to the filter media to help break down waste.
If the local store doesn't carry the meds you need, maybe try online...? There's plenty of stuff to choose from & it's usually quite affordable.
Best of luck

 

[Tainobambino95]

If I use salt (which I don't believe will help much), I use kosher, pickling or sea salt, bought from a bulk bin cooking supply store for very cheap. Pink Himalayan salt is expensive!

I have pink Himalayan salt already I use it to cook with