i thought i post this link for all use battas luvers out there as i just came across it
http
/news.scotsman.com/scotland/Storm-in...bowl.5081416.jp
http
/news.scotsman.com/scotland/Storm-in...bowl.5081416.jpStorm In A Goldfish Bowl As Msps Debate Obese Pet Fish
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nice post except for this part
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However, they are able to live happily together in a large aquarium.
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However, they are able to live happily together in a large aquarium.
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It would be a good move for Scotland to establish laws preventing shops from keeping bettas in, and selling them in, tiny bowls. I would welcome such a law 
One of my lfs has had a sign up for years saying "We do not sell goldfish bowls or small tanks".
Like Azule pointed out, they kind of lost the plot a little bit with that statement.
As for obesity in anything smaller than a 5 gallon, that bits garbage. I would welcome them into my home and challenge them to find an obese betta in any of my tanks. The obesity they are talking about probably comes from overfeeding crappy flake food, instead of listing specific betta pellets.
I believe there would be a far greater case for them to be fighting against keeping goldfish in bowls. It is likely that there are more people with a single goldfish in an unfiltered 2 gallon bowl than there are people who keep bettas that way. The health inplications are far worse for the goldfish.
Its a shame that what could be a good move is flawed by a very weak argument. Its too generalised, especially the bit about they will "irritate White clouds". They seem to have missed the fact that the temperature requirements for white clouds is at the other end of the spectrum.
They will need to provide far better evidence of obesity and general animal cruelty if they are to suceed. Perhaps they should trawl the internet and contact every breeder/keeper for opinions.
One of my lfs has had a sign up for years saying "We do not sell goldfish bowls or small tanks".Like Azule pointed out, they kind of lost the plot a little bit with that statement.
As for obesity in anything smaller than a 5 gallon, that bits garbage. I would welcome them into my home and challenge them to find an obese betta in any of my tanks. The obesity they are talking about probably comes from overfeeding crappy flake food, instead of listing specific betta pellets.
I believe there would be a far greater case for them to be fighting against keeping goldfish in bowls. It is likely that there are more people with a single goldfish in an unfiltered 2 gallon bowl than there are people who keep bettas that way. The health inplications are far worse for the goldfish.
Its a shame that what could be a good move is flawed by a very weak argument. Its too generalised, especially the bit about they will "irritate White clouds". They seem to have missed the fact that the temperature requirements for white clouds is at the other end of the spectrum.
They will need to provide far better evidence of obesity and general animal cruelty if they are to suceed. Perhaps they should trawl the internet and contact every breeder/keeper for opinions.
I think it laster this year that the scottish assembly is going to make major changes to the laws regarding pet shops.
The current laws are about 40 years old and not very effective.
There is one pet shop in Edinburgh that I believe does a fantastic job of looking after the fish with the exception of bettas.
On the counter until recently they sold a 'betta tank'. The thing was tiny and the filter was like Niagara falls. No betta ever seemed to live more than a few days in it.
I think that part of the reason that betta suffer in particular is because they are cheap, they are seen as expendable.
The current laws are about 40 years old and not very effective.
There is one pet shop in Edinburgh that I believe does a fantastic job of looking after the fish with the exception of bettas.
On the counter until recently they sold a 'betta tank'. The thing was tiny and the filter was like Niagara falls. No betta ever seemed to live more than a few days in it.
I think that part of the reason that betta suffer in particular is because they are cheap, they are seen as expendable.
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