Stock list

[asdf]

this is my strock list for my 65gal post comments and advice.

1 yellow lab
4 Red top zebra
1 Blood Parrot
1 pleco
0-2 frontosas(maybe)
1 bala shark

 

[Phantom Thief]

I'm not too sure on the cichlids, someone else will know more about them then me. But ditch the bala shark. It needs a much larger tank, and needs to be in groups of 3 or more.

P.T.

 

[glolite]

Hi
Fully grown frontosas need 100g at least. You could keep a couple of juveniles but would have to be prepared to let them go when they get bigger. The smaller cichlids would be ok for your tank but they can be aggressive. They need a territory each and will vie for attention when you feed them. Perhaps try some of the smaller cichlids from lake Tanganyika. They have personality plus though
Good luck.

 

[modernhamlet]

These fish:
1 yellow lab
4 Red top zebra

And these fish:
1 Blood Parrot
1 pleco
1 bala shark

should not be kept together. They have very different water requirements and aggression levels. If you'd like to keep the first group of fish, read TCAs great introduction to mbuna here.

The issue with the frontosas has already been explained, but fwiw they'd be better with the first group than the second.

 

[Phantom Thief]

Yeah, the first group need harder, alkaline water, while the second group prefer softer and more acidic water. You're going to have to go with one group or the other, perhaps adding more to either group you choose.

For example, if you chose the first group, you could go with an african biotope (either malawi or tanganyika) while if you choose the second group, you might go with a south american biotope. And again, sorry for mentioning it twice, but the bala has to be dropped from the list.

P.T.

 

[asdf]

OK OK NEW LIST
ALL Mawlai lake fish
A few of each
Pearl-Lined Lamprologus
yellow lab
zebre red top
Julidochromis ornatus
Sunshine Peacock
Johanni Cichlid
Powder Blue Cichlid]
Zebra Tilapia


Or
All american cichlids
1 blood parrot
1 severus
1 discuss
A couple blue rams
a couple goldrams
maybe a jack dempsey

Coments advice

 

[freddyk]

First list:

Sounds good, the Julidochromis is from Tanganyika, but should do ok with the mbuna if you feed a varied diet and only keep one. The peacock may not do so well though, they don't like crowded and aggressive setups as much, however if you chose a Jacob peacock he'd to well -they're bigger and more aggressive then most other Aulonocara.

Second list:
Forget the Discus, it would not stand a chance. I'd also choose a tank of big new worlds or small new worlds - rams or the others.
Strictly personal opinion - I find the most rewarding way to keep new worlds as as monogmous couples, they are very social and moody, and watching them interact gives a whole different perspective on the fish. You can also keep a tough schooling fish, like the Congo's I keep with my Nics, to act as target fish and fill up the tank some.

 

[asdf]

You no what i dont understand my brother in law has a 280 gal and a 90 gal and he has all kinds af different fish yellow labs parrot fish fronts nifefish dophin fish coolies multicats plecos convicst acaras and there all in the same tank with the same water and ph how can this be if they all requier different conditions

 

[gixer]

You no what i dont understand my brother in law has a 280 gal and a 90 gal and he has all kinds af different fish yellow labs parrot fish fronts nifefish dophin fish coolies multicats plecos convicst acaras and there all in the same tank with the same water and ph how can this be if they all requier different conditions

no disrepect.

But thats obviously because your brother hasn't go a clue what he's doing.

How long has your brother had this tank running?
How often does he replace his fish?

like i said, no disrespect intended, but ignorance like this really annoys me

 

[freddyk]

You no what i dont understand my brother in law has a 280 gal and a 90 gal and he has all kinds af different fish yellow labs parrot fish fronts nifefish dophin fish coolies multicats plecos convicst acaras and there all in the same tank with the same water and ph how can this be if they all requier different conditions

The idea of PH is a bit misunderstood. The recommended ph is generally based on ph measurements in their biotope. Fish adjust well to different parameters. Most of the fish we buy these days are bred in aquariums or ponds anyway, where parameters are nothing like the wild. I keep all my fish in the water I have on hand - always have. There are exceptions - tempermental fish like Discus, and with breeding the eggs often need certain parameters to hatch properly, and if the water is really off the charts.

Fish compatibility comes down to behavior, their ideal environment (planted, rocky, open water) and sometimes diet. Getting to big tanks like a 280 the rules may change. For example a convict that would destroy yellow labs in a 30 gallon would be fine with them in a 280, convicts won't use that much space.

 

[asdf]

Hes had it up for 6 months now

 

[gixer]

You no what i dont understand my brother in law has a 280 gal and a 90 gal and he has all kinds af different fish yellow labs parrot fish fronts nifefish dophin fish coolies multicats plecos convicst acaras and there all in the same tank with the same water and ph how can this be if they all requier different conditions

there are many other factors that make these fish totally incompatible..the ph is the least of your worries in a tank like that.

diet would be my main concern

 

[Becca]

You no what i dont understand my brother in law has a 280 gal and a 90 gal and he has all kinds af different fish yellow labs parrot fish fronts nifefish dophin fish coolies multicats plecos convicst acaras and there all in the same tank with the same water and ph how can this be if they all requier different conditions

The idea of PH is a bit misunderstood. The recommended ph is generally based on ph measurements in their biotope. Fish adjust well to different parameters. Most of the fish we buy these days are bred in aquariums or ponds anyway, where parameters are nothing like the wild. I keep all my fish in the water I have on hand - always have. There are exceptions - tempermental fish like Discus, and with breeding the eggs often need certain parameters to hatch properly, and if the water is really off the charts.

Fish compatibility comes down to behavior, their ideal environment (planted, rocky, open water) and sometimes diet. Getting to big tanks like a 280 the rules may change. For example a convict that would destroy yellow labs in a 30 gallon would be fine with them in a 280, convicts won't use that much space.

I agree. My South/Central American tank has the same water params as my African tank - and they're both fine. The area that I would see as being a huge problem mixing the two is their attitude and diet.

The Americans - so far - seem to be MUCH more aggressive than my Africans, especially the Red Devils. And, if the two were mixed, I'd be concerned that I'm not meeting proper nutrional needs for each type. Just because we can eat something doesn't mean it's healthy for us...same thing goes for fish.