Spotted Bn Needs Some Help

[nadajdui]

Just today I noticed my Spotted BN had some red at the base of her dorsal and tail fins. She was acting really weird, like she was weak and tired. I didn't like the look of her at all, so she is now in my Quarantine tank. I think maybe she has Hemorrhagic Septicemia. She's just sitting there, and when she moves, she has to fight to stay upright. Can anyone point me in the right direction? I really don't want to lose her. Thanks.

 

[WILDER]

Yes it is septicemia and if she issolated i would treat her with a strong antibiotic like tetracycline, or marcyn one and two if you live in the states.
I would test your water in the main tank for ammonia, nitrite,nitrate, and also recommend some daily water changes on the tank.

 

[nadajdui]

She died. Least it was quick. Thanks though.

 

[nadajdui]

I should have posted this before, but was a little paniced. Anywho, here it is:
Nitrites: 0
Ammonia: 0
pH: 7
Fish: 5 corydoras, 4 zebra danios, 1 longfin blue danio, 1 BN Pleco (RIP Girlie )
Planted
No obvious problems with any other fish. Just did a 25% water change 2 days ago.

 

[tttnjfttt]

Well, your water stats look good. The only thing you can do now is to watch out for any other signs of illness in the rest of your tank. Even though septcemia (the red streaking bacterial infection) isn't highly contagious, there still is the possibility.

Good Luck!

 

[Marcos]

How big was she?

 

[nadajdui]

Yes, I will be watching very closely for any other signs. Thanks.
She was almost 3", and just starting to grow bristles along her upper lip.

 

[WILDER]

Just a few daily water changes on the tank, as fish with septicemia can release the bacteria into the tank, good luck. R.I.P.

 

[BBrain]

Just a few daily water changes on the tank, as fish with septicemia can release the bacteria into the tank, good luck. R.I.P.

Wilder, my daughter (nadajdui) and I decided to treat the tank now, in case there are septicemia bacteria in the tank, or inside other fishes without symptoms. Because it's plain to see that this disease kills too fast for any medication to help, I think it's wise to get it at the pre-acute phase, if that might be happening. I detailed the speed it works, in the other topic, here: http/www.fishforums.net/index.php?showtopic=144003

We studied your advice carefully, and others', and decided to use Maracyn-Two alone, without Maracyn (One). Maracyn (One) is erythromycin, which the University of Florida, Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences says is "not very effective in a bath treatment and should only be administered by injection or mixed into the feed." (From this paper: http/edis.ifas.ufl.edu/FA084 ) If it's not going to do much good, we felt it would be wise not to subject the fishes to any more chemical stress than necessary.

We are following the advice that you linked to in the post about the Panda Cory with septicemia, and have removed the filter, etc., and will add "Cycle" and "Stress Coat" after the medication, as recommended. This is the one I mean: http/www.jbl.de/uk/aqua/uk_10032.html That strategy makes sense to us, but we will be watching the water quality like hawks, and will do water changes ASAP if necessary.

Thanks everyone for all the help. Much appreciated!

 

[BBrain]

Just a warning about that strategy of removing the filter while medicating the tank, to preserve the filter's beneficial bacteria:

A massive, and rapid algae bloom happened, coating all the plants and everything else. I think we should have just left the filter running (without carbon), and accepted a probable mini-cycle. One danio died, perhaps from the stress of the medication or algae....or perhaps he also had the septicemia. We are hoping for the best for the rest of the fishees.

 

[WILDER]

R.I.P. Good luck with the rest.

 

[BBrain]

Thank you, Wilder.
At least we are learning things.