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Right here's the scenario, you are being sent to a uninhabitated island for 20 years and are only allowed to take 10 species of fish with you and may only have a maximum of 10 tanks, the fish must all be species that are available to buy for the home aquarist at least sometimes and the tanks are to be a maximum of 400 gallons each, though can be smaller than this. They can be freshwater, salt or brackish, cold water or tropical, you are not allowed to let species interbreed and create hybrids, if your fish breed their offspring must also be able to live within the 10 aquariums supplied,you may not intentionally use them as feeders or kill healthy fish, all the fish must be able to spend the whole of their life in the maximum sized tank (so no baby great whites or gigantic catfishes, even if you have seen them for sale once). All food, water and equipment needed for their care will be supplied and of course you will be given food, drinking water and clean clothes.

Which 10 species would you take and why would you choose them over other fish?
 
That's a tough one CFC!
I just sat there thinking and got stumped. I'm going to have a good think and post later! :)
 
Ah, "Desert Island Discs" for fishkeepers... what fun!

1. Mudskippers. Two reasons for these being good on a desert island. Firstly, they're almost land animals, so would make nice pets to have frolicking about for fun. Perhaps I'd have the time to train them to walk on a leash, or feed from my hands. So, a bit of company if nothing else. Secondly, since they can live in seawater, I can let them go free in the rock pools around the island.

2. Archerfish. I'd have a tank of these in my hut. They'll quickly spit down any nasty mosquitoes!

3. Wrestling halfbeaks. More anti-malaria control. Stock all the freshwater pools with these to stop any mosquitoes from breeding in them! Besides, I like halfbeaks so much, and can't really imagine not having any with me. This species in particular becomes very tame.

4. South American puffers. Breeding these will be an absolutely immense task, but since I have twenty years, should keep me occupied. I'll need a big tank and a few dozen specimens I imagine! It would be a definite plus if I had a plankton net provided, as I'm pretty sure the baby puffers will need very tiny live foods.

5. One of the gar species. Used to keep these (Lepisosteus oculatus) years ago, and they're fascinating fish. Don't really mind which one, though I'd sooner have a group of one of the smaller species than just one giant.

6. Parambassis gulliveri. A big, gorgeous, predatory glassfish. Traded in Australia and occasionally in the US, but unfortunately hardly ever seen in the UK. I saw it once when I was about 14 years old, and that's it. Never again in twenty years. Would definitely be worth keeping though.

7. Sarotherodon melanotheron. A very unsual fish, this, a paternal mouthbrooding tilapia. Used to be quite common in the trade but you don't see it so much nowadays. Quite an attractive fish in a rugged sort of way. Does well in seawater, so I can always store the excess fry in rock pools. Big fish might even end up on the grill!

8. Pipefish. Can't easily keep these without access to planktonic beasties, but since I'm on an island, getting mysids and such from the rock pools shouldn't be hard.

9. My Panaque nigrolienatus. She's the only fish in my tank I'd miss. So she's coming along with me!

10. An mature but empty marine aquarium. I'm going to spend a lot of time collecting sea creatures, so a tank into which I can put some stuff in would be great. Rock pool fish are always fun, and most seem to do well in tanks.

Cheers,

Neale
 
in no particular order

1. Luciosoma spilopleura. A Loverly schooling predator, amazing what it can fit in its deceptive mouth.

2. Exodon paradoxus. The most beautiful tetra (IMHO), and they would become a dustbin for dead fish :p

3. Devario regina. My most sought after danio.

4. Danio feegradei. The most beatutiful danio.

5. Polypterus endlicheri congicus. Currently I'm in no position to have a tank large enough for one of these.

6. Chanda lala. A beautiful totaly freshwater glassfish that is, sadly, often dyed.
I'd like a school of natural ones.

7. Serrasalmus niger. My favourite piranah. another dustbin fish for the deads.

8. Diodon nicthemerus. A stunning marine puffer that just oozes personality

9. Cromileptes Altivelis. watching this fish eat is like watching an sword swallowing artist perform.

10. Tetragonopterus argenteus. I love my school of 8 but on the island I'd have a school of 20+
 
Hoho... so many fish to choose from.

Only 400 takes out the only FW fish I would actually like to take (the RTC) so I am left with a salty collection.

1. Frogfish Any frogfish would be good, but as I can have a large tank, I would go for Antennarius commerson. Nothing like a colourful frogfish the size of a cat.

2. Coral Cat Shark (Atelomycterus marmoratus) I love these guys and the moment I find somewhere to set up a second 6 foot tank one of these will be going in. 400 gallons could allow me a couple.

3. Walking Batfish Most likely Ogcocephalus nasutus though some of the smaller species are great as well. I have a true love for these. They belong to the same order (Lophiiformes) as the frogfish and even possess an ilicium (rod) though have a missing or less developed esca (lure) on the end.

4. Stonefish (Synanceia verrucosa) These things are great. Look amazing and can kill you with their venom. What could be better? How about the fact they can shed their skin to prevent anything growing on their amazingly camouflaged body becoming too encrusted or a problem? 8)

5. Blue Spotted Stingray (Dasyatis marmorata) Even public aquaria have trouble getting them past 6 months, but if you can get one going, it must be amazing. And to have a small group must really be nice.

6. Hawaiian Dragon Moray (was Enchelycore pardalis though may now be identified as Muraena pardalis) These are a lovely eel, shame they always command such a high price. The fangs and colours are amazing, and unlike most morays it keeps its stunning colours into adulthood.

7. Garden Eel (Heteroconger hassi) These things would be great in a quite tall 400 galon tank with a community of around 15-20. especially in an open bottomed tank that would allow the batfish to share with them.

8. Ribbon Eel (Rhinomuraena quaesita) what a fish. It changes colour and sex throughout its life from an immature black juvenile, to a mature blue male and ultimately to a yellow female. A few of these in a tank would be great.

9. Helmet Gurnard (Dactyloptena orientalis) Another amazing bottom dwelling marine fish with huge pectoral fins to glide with.

10. Clearfin Lionfish (Pteoris radiata) By far the most attractive of the lionfish for me, and a small shoal in a giant tank must look fantastic.

The downside to my selections is a lot don't do great in captivity and I would require all manner of live food and antibiotics and worming treatments, but if I am on a desert island, what else can I do all day?

Shame I don't have a few more to add in other fish I love, such as the massive (up to 10 foot) tesselated or leopard moray, or more species of frogfish and scorpionfish.

I note you haven't done yours yet CFC. I know the electric eel will be there, but am unsure on the rest of yours, though expect to see P bass and a ray of some sort in there.
 
Is it the fish or me that get supplied with food...?
 
Ok i'll do mine now there have been a few replies.


Electrophorus electricus ; Electric eel . I love these and with a couple in a large tank and the right equipment you could possibly use them to charge batteries from the small electrical impluses they constantly give off as a navigation device. Interesting and functional.

Mudskippers . I had these in mind for the same reasons as Nmonks, and if nothing else they would provide you with exercise chasing the little buggers about when they escape, probably much needed when you are stuck on a boring desert island with nothing else to do.

Gymnothorax tile ; FW moray eel . It saddens me that so many of these get sold in shops and yet there is virtually nothing known about them or their care. With 20 years to keep and study them i could hopefully learn something about their breeding cycle and social behaviour.

Allenbatrachus grunniens ; Toadfish . If you kept a few in a tank you could get a little chorus going when they start singing to each other at night, what better way to pass 20 years than to listen to some lovely music, well maybe not but at least it would be better than nothing. Also they have faces like little hairy old men so you wouldnt feel too stupid talking to them once the madness sets in, and toadfish fry must look really funny.

Malapterus electricus ; Electric catfish . A great pet fish and could help the electric eels to generate some power, i might even get enough to get a PC running for a few minutes so i could check the forum once a month.

Potamotryon menchacai ; Tiger stingray . I could never afford these in real life and would be terrified to keep them if i could but since this is make belief i can dream, besides if youre not going to be earning for 20 years then breeding these and having a couple of dozen to sell when you come back will get your bank balance back on the right track.

Asterophysus batrachus ; Gulper catfish . I just want one, no other reason. Mrs CFC is cruel and mean and wont allow me to spend £300 on one fish while there is a mortgage to pay, but shes not allowed on my island so :p

Arowana; No scientific name because i'm not bothered which one i have, i just couldnt imagine not having one in a tank somewhere, maybe a few gold X backs to get breeding and have a nice little nest egg to come off the island with along with the tiger rays.

Polynemus species; Paradise threadfins . You have to have seen and kept these to understand, like a class A drug in a fish tank.

Lepidosiren paradoxa ; South American lungfish . I've wanted one of these for ages and after the fuss i made recently and finally managed to get one if i didnt take it mrs CFC would probably come over and stick it up my :hyper: besides they are very cool and are quite comical in the way they swim and eat, better than TV.
 
6. Chanda lala. A beautiful totaly freshwater glassfish that is, sadly, often dyed.
I'd like a school of natural ones.
Agreed. Glassfish are tragically abused by the less honourable exporters, and misunderstood by the majority of hobbyists. When settled in they are tough as nails, and have really pushy personalities (like Christmas shoppers on Oxford Street!). Mine spend all day either dive-bombing one another or dive-bombing the tetras and hatchets. They don't do any harm, but they sure keep the other fish moving about.

Wildwoods has Ambassis agrammus in stock, which is a lovely, slightly amber-coloured species that is quite thick-set in shape. Fresh or brackish water suits. Wholesale Tropicals has the elusive Gymnochanda filementosa, a little beauty with great long "feelers" off its dorsal and anal fins. Prefers freshwater, ideally soft and acidic. A bit shy compared to the other species. Would make a great addition to a discus tank.

Polynemus species; Paradise threadfins . You have to have seen and kept these to understand, like a class A drug in a fish tank.
Laughed out aloud at this! CFC is right, these are amazing fish. Kind of like a cross between a catfish and a spider. Not easy to keep though.

Cheers,

Neale
 
hmmm CFC - I might stick the lungfish there anyway after this post :hey: :lol:

My main fish would have to be red snappers - that ought to keep CFC away from my island otherwise filled up with Mr Hanky (the electic catfish) a few morays and loads of tarantulas (again a CFC deterant) and a whole load of crested geckos - oh and a bosc monitor 'cos we don't have room in the house.
 
To be honest, I think the pair of you would suffer (as would I) without a "Jesus" fish to turn its tank water to wine...


been thinking about this all day and struggling........ but i would definately have to go for the jesus fish too :lol:
 
If I were on a deserted island....

...I'd be surrounded by fish!
So my choice would be 10 empty tanks.
I could use of of the tanks (inverted) underwater so I could have a good look around.
I'd have a whole lotta happy, mainentance free fish to look at in their natural environment.

:lol:

Andy
 
Toughie. Out of what I've kept/always wanted to keep....

1. Electric Catfish.
A proper one, not the dwarf one. Cute as hell, functional, very personable.
2. Parauchenoglanic Guttatus.
I'd have to have a group of these, while not very outgoing or friendly to each other, they are amazing to look at when settled and, as before, are incredibly cute. As well as being pretty uncommon. And if I got them to breed, that would be nice.
3. Betta
I'd probably divide one of the tanks into, ooh, ten, and have one of each sex and of each tail type. If I'm exiled for twenty years, I might as well do something productive- genetics experiments for twenty years would make the time fly by. There's the issue of where the fry would go, obviously, but since I'm allowed up to 400 gallons per tank it should be no problems.
4. Eel Catfish
Always facsinating. I'd have a group of six maybe, in a half filled 180 or similar. Add in a land feeding area, and hey presto- you've got yourself a fish that does incredibly neat tricks with land feeding and also has very little written on it.
5.Pseudostegophilus nemurus
Absolutely stunning fish, and with fantastically cool feeding habits. Generally accepted that it bites chunks from living fish. Which is a shame, otherwise I'd breed some parrots to feed it and the others on...
6. Vandellia cirrhosa
Again, great feeding habits. This is one of the species reffered to as Candiru- so I've got myself a guard fish into the bargain.
7.Ituglanis metae
Again, beutiful. Spotty with a squashed head. And *probably* bites chunks out of living/dead fish. Little known about them.
8. Kuhli Loch
Again, if I had a 400g, I could fit, well, 500, 1000.... loads. And get at least four different species into the bargain. A fascinating fish that, once settled and with lots of friends, is very outgoing and great to watch. And very beatiful with a huge range of markings.

9 and 10, not sure. I'll get back to you.
 

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