So New I Haven't Even Got A Tank Yet!

dmahon

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OK, I'm new.

My daughter wants a fish tank for her birthday. I've generally fancied one for ages so I don't mind and my wife also quite likes them. We haven't bought anything yet. I've read loads but thought I'd ask for advice before I go out and start spending some money.

Wife likes ornamental tanks (Hexagons, BiOrbs etc) but I want something that is fairly easy to keep and I expect that the BiOrb will need frequent water changes given the poor filtration system. I know a lot of people don't seem to like them. I'd prefer a bowfronted tank and get it as big as possible, but will probably have to compromise on size. I'll see if I can get the wife to go for something as big as 150-180 litres.

So advice on tanks:

Jewel Vision 180
Fluval Vicenza 180
Rena Aqualife Panorama 100
Aqua One AquaStyle 850
Aqualantins Evasion Evo Horizon 100

Are the ones that spring to (my) mind. Are there others I should look at? I'm going out to look at them later today so may add some more or say if any appear to become favourites of the wife/daughter. Fortunately there are two garden centres, both with fairlylarge fish stores, less than 2 minutes down the road.

The tanks all seem to come as kits with the tank/cabinet/filter/heater - are the filters good enough (I read that somepeople upgrade them later or even at the same time as buying the tank)? Are external filters better than in-water filters or above water filters (Aqua One)?

When I get the tank I'll be doing a fishless cycle and will probably add some bacteria if I can (as daughter won't want to wait a minute longer then necessary, and preferably less). Can I add plants whilst doing the cycling - and will this speed up or slow down the process? Obviously she will choose the fish and I can only hope that the LFS stops her from choosing ones that are incompatable. Other than a testing kit and some dechlorination product, is there anything else I need to buy (really obvious thinbgs - how do I do a water change - do I need some sort of syphon thing and a bucket for example)?

Personally I like marine fish (probably because I'm a diver) - is a marine aquarium really a lot more difficult to keep (something like the Red Sea Max)?
 
Hey Dmahon


You most certainly can cycle with plants in the tank,
Plants and superb in tanks with fish as it helps maintain much better water quality..
I don't think they will speed up the process as you need the bacteria to develop.

I actually havr a Jewel vision 180 and its a great tank... (cant comment on the rest sadly)
with the juwel 180 it comes with a filter but I recommend you remove it and buy an external cannister,
I myself have a Tetratec ex 1200 and an Eheim Eco 2230 (I think forgot number)
as they make the tank much cleaner and as far easier to give maintinence

to do you water changes you want to buy a Gravel Vac, (syphon)
So you can pick up all the detrius on the bottom ( I do this each week while I syphon the water drains out into a bucket )
I also changed 25% water each week.
I have tropical fish but when I add the new water I'll add it to a bucket dechlorinate it then pour into the tank,
I don't bother matching the temprature I just pour cold water in as the change in temprature is minimal and some fish can be induced to spawn via this (so I read)

I would recomend reading on the plants you plan to add,
If your going for a plant that feeds heavy on the roots you might need a supliment (root tab) to keep its growing well.

Marine tanks are much harder than freshwater (in my opinion) and much more expensive. dependant if you wnat corals

hope thats some help and anymore questions shoot away.

Carl
 
From reading here. I prepare my buckets of dechlorinate water the night before and just leave them in the kitchen that way it not freezing cold and a bit warmer when I do the change
 
I have always had AquaOnes and have the one you mentioned......great set-up for the money :good:
 
Hi,

I have a vision 180 juwel tank and find the juwel filter system does the job fine. I never mess around with buckets over night just fill from the tap, add dechlorinator and a splash of boiling water from the kettle and pour it in. If i'm only doing a 20% change i don't bother with the kettle water. The cooler water encourages my corys and bristlenose plecs to spawn :)

I usually do water changes on the downstairs tanks one day and the upstairs tanks another day, i generally change 4 buckets from the vison 180 8 buckets from the rio 400 and 2 buckets from the 33 gallon tank so imagine how many buckets i'd have lying around lol. I only use 2 buckets for all my water changes and do them every 2-3 weeks.

Emma :)
 
dont get a bio orb.

they suck

stupidly small surface area and so not much oxygenation

just go for a clear seal 72 litre or something
 

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