Smallest Community Tank

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so i am getting nuthin bigger than a 10 gallon/40 litre for my desk as i hav no space for anythin 4 bigger
what is the smallest size tank you could keep a small community in or nwould it b best to put a betta in there?
i can get hold ov small tanks such as 5 gallon easily so wat do u think??
 
you could get a 5g and get a betta.

but a 10 gallon community would be good. just remeber 1cm of fish to 1 litre of water.:good:

so a pair of endlers and a shoal of WCMM's about 6 and about 6 shrimps (amano, cherry, or ghost). just remember shrimps count as more or less 0 on your bio load as they eat waste and left overs.

take a look at this tank its only 6 gallons but its one of the most beautiful ive ever seen. that has 10 neons tetras and about 50 cherry shrimp but i wouldnt get that many as they will breed. so stick with 6. follow this link.

[URL="http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...31380&st=36"]http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...31380&st=36[/URL]

check out page 20
 
If your desk can take the weight of a ten gallon then get a ten gallon. The bigger the tank the more fish you can have and the easier it is to get filters and heater for them. More water means the parameters are easier to keep stable ( this doesn't mean you should do less water changes though ) and thus healthier fish are more likely.

In a ten gallon you could have a nice little community. But I will warn you most of the usual tetras like neons, cardinals black widows ect, and most of the commonly found Danios, aren't really suited to that size tank as they are schooling active fish, and like a good bit of length in a tank to swim up and down and display to eachother ect.


Endlers are beautiful little fish. A group of all males would work nicely in a ten gallon ( I say all males so you wouldn't get a population explosion ) Same as a group of all male guppies. Both of these species are bright and colourful, active enough to be entertaining and so on.

A group of female bettas would work in there, 5 or so is often reccomended for them, too few and they tend to squabble amongst themselves a lot more.


A dwarf gourami or pair of sparkling gouramis would also be nice, but you MUST make sure your filter is properly matured and the water very good, as Dwarf gouramis in particular are known to be a bit weak and sensetive.


For bottom feeders, normal cories won't have enough space as they are also social fish and prefer bigger groups and need more space than ten gals. If you have a decent filter then a gaggle of 8 or so Pygmy cories will work fine with a group of other fish in the upper levels ( although pygmies also spend more time off the bottom than other cories ) .

Shrimp are great, Ghost shrimp are active, come out into the open a little more often than Amanos, and are generally quite entertaining ( mine steals food right out of the fishes mouths and runs off with it !) a group of them would do a good job of substrate cleanup. Cherry shrimp are also nice.
 
just to add to the gourami note above, honey gouramis (different from dwarf gouramis) would also work. both very nice fish, as are sparkling gouramis but there is NONE around at any store in the city..
 
you could get a 5g and get a betta.

but a 10 gallon community would be good. just remeber 1cm of fish to 1 litre of water.:good:

so a pair of endlers and a shoal of WCMM's about 6 and about 6 shrimps (amano, cherry, or ghost). just remember shrimps count as more or less 0 on your bio load as they eat waste and left overs.

take a look at this tank its only 6 gallons but its one of the most beautiful ive ever seen. that has 10 neons tetras and about 50 cherry shrimp but i wouldnt get that many as they will breed. so stick with 6. follow this link.

<a href="http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...31380&st=36" target="_blank">http://www.fishforums.net/index.php?showto...31380&st=36</a>

check out page 20


1CM - 1L?

:D Yay! Since its 40 lets add in a bala shark! Genius! /endsarcasm. :)

I thought it was 1" - 1G. Is it the same..?
 
how about
4 male guppys
1/2 dwarf/honey gouramis ???????????????????? answer plz
3/6 shrimp
 
the 1cm = 1litre rule has to be used with common sense. as the 1" per gallon is from the 70s and with new technologies, ie filters becoming more efficient etc, this rule is the most common one found in books and on websites.imo i think the 1" per gal rule is old.

you have to use this rule with common sense instead of taking the mick

1 gallon(us) is 3.8 litres. and an inch is 2.54 cm

so the old rule 1" per gallon you could have 10" of fish or 25cm

new rule you could have 1cm per 1 litre you could have 38 cm of fish or 15 inches of fish.

to start with the 1" to 1 gallon is recomended but once the tank has matured and is fully cycled 1cm to 1litre is the way to go

4 guppys :good: get males.
2 honey gouramis :good: just make sure you get a pair.
6 cherry shrimps :good: they make brilliant tank cleanners

once the tank is a few months old and fully cycled. you could get a small shoal of WCMMs. i dont recomend tetras with guppies as they have a tendancy to fin nip
 
Avoid the 1cm=1G rule. That works out more than twice the 1 inch to 1G rule, and can only be accomplished with certain fish and with certain tanks. The 1 inch = 1G rule is old but its also a safe rule. In order to stock more fish than that you need someone with experience to tell you what would be suitable, would need the tank to be overfiltered and mature (4-6 months old.)

I personally wouldn't put a dwarf gourami in that size tank. Half a dozen guppies should be fairly active, or endlers.
 
Get the biggest tank you can. A great fish for small community tanks is the ember tetra, they're tiny and quite beautiful fish, but may be a bit hard to get hold of
 
on the other hand...


how about the 5 gallon? i dont need any criticism for saying this but one of the residents at the nursing home i work at has a 5 gallon with the following.


1 gourami (unsure of the kind)

3 male guppies

3 hatchet fish

1 large snail.

im sure ive forgoten at least 1 or 2 fish but amazingly this tank has survived the whole time ive worked there. right now its looking very disgusting and i offered to clean it tomorrow. anyways, if you dont want the 10 gallon you could save some desk space and get a 5 gallon community. it is possible
 

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