Sick Siamese Fighting Fish

[the_lock_man]

My SFF has a swelling to the lower abdomen, but not on the rest of his body. He is not as active as he used to be, often just flopping down to the gravel or into the plants. I've attached a photo from the rear showing the swelling. Any idea what's wrong - dropsy? tumour? something else?

Edit: Water stats are 0ppm Ammonia and Nitrite, 20ishppm Nitrate, pH of 7.8.

 

[RustedKnight]

I'm absolutely no expert, but he just looks bloated to me..

Has he been going to the toilet as often as usual??

 

[the_lock_man]

I'm absolutely no expert, but he just looks bloated to me..

Has he been going to the toilet as often as usual??

Never really seen him go, tbh, Rusty, but I regularly give the tank vegetables, often peas, but sometimes swede.

 

[RustedKnight]

Ah, well i'm quite probably wrong then.
I'm still learning.

I don't think it's dropsy as his eyes seem fine and he's not "pine-coning", but I can't discout the possibilities of a tumour or something. Sorry I cannot help more.

 

[the_lock_man]

Ah, well i'm quite probably wrong then.
I'm still learning.

I don't think it's dropsy as his eyes seem fine and he's not "pine-coning", but I can't discout the possibilities of a tumour or something. Sorry I cannot help more.

No probs. He died this morning anyway.

 

[RustedKnight]

I'm really sorry to hear that.

What were his symptoms at the end?? It must have been something to cause that.
Your water parameters were fine, your feeding ruotine seemed fine, maybe it was a tumour like you suggested.

If there is anything else in the tank, then keep a close eye on them just in case. Once again, sorry.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

For future reference:

He was bloated, or he looks it from the photo. When they become bloated you should fast them for a few days as they'll become blocked up and can die from it.

It certainly isn't dropsy (from the photo - I lost a female betta to dropsy earlier this year).

 

[WILDER]

Bless Him.
R.I.P.

Was the swelling hard to the touch, or soft like filled with fluid.

 

[the_lock_man]

Thank you all for your thoughts, much appreciated.

Dipsy, I initially wondered if it was the early stages of dropsy, before the pineconing starts. How quickly could bloating take a fish? As I said above, they regularly get peas, the last time was probably last Friday. Does any particular other food have a bad reputation for causing bloating?

Wilder, I'm sorry, I didn't feel the lump - I guess bloating would be a hard lump, whilst a soft lump would be something else (tumour, etc.)?

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

Thank you all for your thoughts, much appreciated.

Dipsy, I initially wondered if it was the early stages of dropsy, before the pineconing starts. How quickly could bloating take a fish? As I said above, they regularly get peas, the last time was probably last Friday. Does any particular other food have a bad reputation for causing bloating?

Some fish are more prone to bloating than others in general; one of my female bettas is a right bloater.

When my girl had dropsy she pineconed straight away; she was perfectly fine (I'd taken her photo) the next morning she was swolen and pineconed...a few days later (she was separated and being treated) she picked up; then the next day she was quiet again and her pineconing had gotten worse (if possible) and next morning she was gone - she lasted 6 days I think.

 

[the_lock_man]

Thank you all for your thoughts, much appreciated.

Dipsy, I initially wondered if it was the early stages of dropsy, before the pineconing starts. How quickly could bloating take a fish? As I said above, they regularly get peas, the last time was probably last Friday. Does any particular other food have a bad reputation for causing bloating?

Some fish are more prone to bloating than others in general; one of my female bettas is a right bloater.

When my girl had dropsy she pineconed straight away; she was perfectly fine (I'd taken her photo) the next morning she was swolen and pineconed...a few days later (she was separated and being treated) she picked up; then the next day she was quiet again and her pineconing had gotten worse (if possible) and next morning she was gone - she lasted 6 days I think.

I had a platy with dropsy a while back - how I interpreted what Wilder said at the time was that pineconing was indicative of the last stage of dropsy, in other words that the fish had already been through the earlier stages. I may have got hold of the wrong end of the stick, though.

 

[dipsydoodlenoodle]

Apparently so, but my fish looked and acted perfectly fine the day before she pine coned

 

[WILDER]

Freeze dried foods, to many dried foods in there diet, over feeding can cause bloating.
A hard lump beneath the skin could be a tumour.
Once fluids build up inside the fish organ failure, also can lead to septicemia.