Severe Pineconeing!

[kribensis12]

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ARGHHHHHHHH, my female guppy is SEVERLY PINECONEING! Its terrible. I feel bad too, as i was going ot treat this a few days ago, but my schedule was preventing that! Well,here is a few pics and a video:

Also, i have what appears to be a sick Male Guppy. The guy i got them from said that most of the guppies are older than three years, i tihnk this is one of them:


He has been like this since i got him, but he seems to be getting worse. He dosent swim around that much, and dosent eat alot either.
I upped the doseage from 5 teaspoons on epsom salt to 8 teaspoons.

 

[TetraLinz]

Dropsy/pineconing is a bad sign tbh Do you have any results for ammonia, nitrite, nitrate and pH? Just in case there's a quality problem causing the symptoms . . . Otherwise it's probably a bacterial infection.

That kink in the male's spine looks suspicious - and painful. It could be a dietary problem, or a birth deformaty, but judging by the severity, I wouldn't be surprised if it was TB. Also looks like the fish has been a victim of fin nipping and/or finrot . . . I'm assuming his tail wasn't always like that?

I'd euthanise both fish, tbh.

 

[kribensis12]

No, his tail has always been like that, thats the way i got him. Poor girl died =[. But if figuerd that i'd rather try and fail and not try and fail, knowing that there might have been something i could have done something. The male dosent have TB, i've seen TB before, and this sint it. It appears to be old age, but i want to make sure it isnt something more serious. It looks like his tail is too big for his body. I dont know about euthinizing him, I am thinking about isolating him with smaller fish so he isnt botherd as much, but im still on middle groud He dosent look like he is in pain. He is just not very active and prefers to just sit there, instead of swim around constantly.