Setting Up A New Large Tank

Danielle

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Hi! I'm looking at getting and setting up a large fresh water tank, between 70 and 120 gallons, and would love some advice/suggestions.

I'm not totally new to fishkeeping; I worked in a couple nice lfs when I was younger, so got a lot of experience caring for fish back then. Mostly freshwater, I'm not really experienced with salt water. Of course, back then (almost 10 years ago!), everyone used UGF, and now at the lfs, I'm being told this is a no-no?

I used to have a dwarf cichlid tank, 20 gallons, all south american cichlids, which did very well. I had to take it down when I moved, and rehome my fishies.

Almost a year ago, I got into fish again, and set up a 28 gallon bow-front cold water tank. It houses two orandas, a crown pearlscale, a handful of malaysian trumpet snails, and a rubber-lipped pleco, and has 300gph filtration. Filters are a in tank whisper and a HOB whisper. No carbon, just lots of bio media. Substrate is gravel, plants are all fake. I also have a 5gallon barebottom acrylic tank with a single male betta in it.

As for the new tank, it will have a variety of freshwater tropicals eventually. Definitely some barbs and some tetras, I'll likely move my betta out of the 5 gallon and into the big tank, one or two bottom feeders, a couple of Kribensis, and then whatever else works and catches my fancy. I like to have a natural looking tank, with open areas but lots of hidey-holes, so that I can have various species co-exist.

Anyway, my questions are:

- what type of filtration would you recommend? Trickle? HOB? UGF? Bear in mind that I like LOTS of filtration so that I can get away with overstocking a bit. I've never used a trickle filter, and don't entirely understand how they work. I get the actual trickle part, and how they create filtration, what I can't grasp is the mechanics of it, why the water only trickles rather than pouring, what the physical setup looks like, what mainenance is like, how hard it is to set up, etc.

- what type of substrate? I'm leaning towards a coarse sand, because I like the way it looks. I'm also leaning towards live plants for the first time. Pros and cons? Also, everything I'm reading says, in a planted tank, use 2 inches of soil, then 2 inches of gravel or sand on top. Yet I also read everywhere that you shouldn't have more than 2" deep substrate, or you get anaerobic bacteria problems that'll kill your fish...

Would love some advice and feedback from people who've had experiences with larger tanks.

Thanks!
 
I don't have much experience with large tank tanks :sad:, but I would suggest using at least two canister filters or else you could use a overflow/ stump tank.

cheers,
Mikaila31
 
Yep I would go for a couple of larger external canister filters. You can either set them up so one is most mechnical media (lots of filter foam and wool) and the other is mostly bio media but I personally prefer to have before set up with a balance of the two (ie from in to out: prefilter/course foam, biomedia, small partical filter/filterwool).

If you go for a planed tank then I would recommend a nutrient rich substrate like ADA aquasoil or Eco complete. If it is very well planted a lot of the plants will put out very large root systems which help stop any gas pockets building up. The addition of trumpt snails will also help to airate the substrate.

I wouldnt put a betta in with barbs or tetras as it it likely to lose all its fins to both types of fish.
 
thanks for the advice!

I settled on a 90 gallon today, and picked it up, along with a stand. I was super tempted by a 125 long they had, but there was no way I could get it in my car...As it was, it was awfully stressful driving an hour and a bit home in heavy traffic with a big glass tank in my car! I was so worried it would crack!

I also picked up a penguin biowheel filter that runs 350gph, some decorative rock, and a chunk of ironwood. Now I've got to wait until next pay day to get the rest. I'm thinking substrate (still toying with the idea of sand), heater, more decorations, and a canister filter. I'm leaning towards the Fluval 5, but will that be too much filtration? I like to have lots of filtration so I can overstock a bit, but I don't want to make too much current...How much current will a Fluval 5 make if I use the spray bar - anyone know?

Oh, this is so exciting. Hopefully by next weekend it will be up and running, with a couple of starter fish to get the cycle going. I'll borrow some media from my cycled tank too, which should help...
 
there can never be too much filtration, especially if you plan to stock heavily. i have the same penguin 350 and it is amazing. i would recommend doing a fish less cycle though. it's much more humane, and you don't have to worry about killing fish. there is a pinned topic about it you should check out.
 
If you plan on plants, dont get a wet/dry, I've heard that due to the gas exchange there is very little CO2 for the plants.
 

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