Seeding filter medium

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I have small tank with zero ammonia and nitrite readings - I have just bought a new 180litre, a couple of days ago I put some foam filter medium in with the established filter, hoping to use this to seed the filter in the new tank - my question is how long do I have to leave it in the established filter for it to 'pick up' enough bacteria to be of use in the new tank ?

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I will probably do the same with my tank. I've got a betta in my small tank, so I can easily either take out the filter media or cut a bit off. Also, if I washed the filter media in the new tank water, will that help?
 
My understanding of how the beneficial bacteria works is this (and someone can correct me if I'm off!):

If you start with a fresh tank (with no established source of bacteria, like gravel, sponges, floss, etc.), you have no bacteria. As the ammonia levels build, the bacteria begin to develop to "feed from" the ammonia and break it down. So you're starting with no bacteria at all. When you add some established media, you're bumping everything up a notch, since your bacteria doesn't need to colonize a new tank, it just needs to multiply enough to "consume" all of the ammonia. So you have a head start. It is my understanding that the bacteria live primarily on surfaces in the tank, such as gravel and filter media, and not so much in the water column. This is why you should use some filter media or gravel to seed the tank, and not just established tank water.

Assuming that my understanding is not way off, I'd say that the longer you can leave the filter media/gravel/whatever in the tank during cycling, the better off you'll be. But I would wager that once the typical cycling spike has started to decline, your tank probably has a fairly established bacteria level of its own. You could probably remove it at that point if it were driving you nuts.

As far as rinsing the sponge in the new tank water, I don't know if that would be helpful, harmful, or neither. My thoughts (these are not exactly scientific!) are that it might be easier for the bacteria to colonize from the sponge and be carried through the water to the other surfaces, rather than having the existing colony disturbed so that it has to establish itself in little spots all over the tank, but I'm sure that someone with better knowledge than I have will come along. :)

--Pamela
 
After a couple of weeks it should have picked up enough bacteria. You can also squeeze some of the bacterial goop from the old media int the media of a new filter to give it a good start.

Tolak
 
Jolly good then. I might even think about changing the gravel in my small tank to black so it shows up my betta better and so I can use the gravel to help cycle as well.
 
If you're up for a change, that sounds like a really good idea. I don't know if it's categorically true or not, but I have read that the gravel is more bacteria-laden than the filters are. Regardless, it'd be nice to start with a small tanks' worth of gravel instead of just a little bag of it! Just make sure you have a good ammonia source when you start so that you don't lose all of that wonderful bacteria! (But I suppose you know that... :blush: )

Good luck,
Pamela
 
If you don't supply food for the bacteria, they will die off. That is what fishless cycling is all about. To get your seeded tank up to snuff and able to receive a full fish load all at once, dose pure ammonia in the amount 4-5drops/10gals of water daily. When you can dose 4 drops/10 gals and test 0 ammonia and nitrites w/i 2 hours, stock it. The process will go faster if you turn up the temp during the process. Before stocking do a 50% wc to freshen the water and don't forget to turn the temp back down.
 

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