Salt And Medication?

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I read on the internet salt shouldn't be mixed with some medications... Instead salt is best used before and after treatment. I know salt is good for a number of things, and can help relieve stress in some fish.


I am using non ionized sea salt. I wanted to use it in a tank currently being treated with Metronidazole (Flagyl.)

I think it should be fine, can't see why it would cause a problem... Anyways, just wanted to double check.

Also, would you guys recommend epson salt over sea salt? Not really an emergency, so I thought I would post this is tropical chat.

Thank you!
 
What exactly using the salt for? Salt can be particularly stressful to some types of freshwater fish and can only help treat certain problems (mostly external parasites and external bacterial infections), in the case of problems like dropsy though it can make dropsy 10 times more lethal than it already is for the fish and can even cause fish to have dropsy in the first place.
Salt can be used at the same as many meds, but you should definately take into consideration what fish you are subjecting the salt to and what health problems you are treating your fish for exactly :nod: .
 
I am having a problem with one of my Discus is not eating, and now another fish seems another has gotten the same thing. Emergency section and I found out it was probably bacterial, so I am treating with Flagyl. Thought I would add some Epsom Salt (now that I have it) just to help relieve stress, and help clear anything in the water.
 
\hought I would add some Epsom Salt just to help relieve stress

Salt DOES NOT actually do this. It is a misapplication of the concept of osmotic stress.

Osmotic stress is the stress that is formed due to the presence of dissolved matter in water. Stress in the this case is used in the mechanical/engineering/physics sense, not in the fishkeeping sense. In the mechanical/engineering/physics sense, pressure is also a stress. And, in fact, in the scientific literature, osmotic stress and osmotic pressure are used almost interchangeably.

An osmotic stress does form over the skin of a fish, simply because the level of dissolved minerals in the tank water and in the fish's internal bodily fluids are different. Nature prefers the levels to be balanced, so there is a stress due to the imbalance between the levels of dissolved matter.

However, and this is the big point, the fish has lived with this stress it's entire existence. It has evolved to deal with this stress for many millions of years now. It is exactly the same how we -- humans and all air-breathing creatures -- has evolved to deal with the stress of our atmosphere. And yes, our atmosphere is applying a large amount of stress on our bodies. 14.7 pounds per square inch to be exact. Take an object that weighs 15 pounds and rest it on your leg, even better if the point you rest it on is only a square inch -- it weighs a lot! It is a large amount of force. But, we don't notice this force pressing on us from all sides because we have evolved and lived with it our entire life.

When you take this atmospheric stress away... you get sick! This is known as altitude sickness and happens to a lot of people who leave sea level and go to Denver or the Alps for a significant period of time. When you are sick, you are not looking to move into a low-pressure chamber to be relieved of the "atmospheric" stress. And, the same things for your fish -- they are not looking to be relieved of the osmotic stress. They have lived and evolved with this stress throughout their entire history. They will be worse off being relieved of this stress than non being relieved.

If the osmotic stress was sooooooo bad, why didn't every fish species everywhere eventually evolve to live in the much more salty ocean? Freshwater fish do not need to be relieved of this stress, and the manufacturers of the salt are playing on this word stress -- because we always hear about how stress lowers the fish's immune system -- to scare you into buying their product.

In particular, your discus evolved in some of the most mineral-poor waters on the planet. They don't have the mechanism to deal with extra salt in their water. You will probably do as much harm as good by exposing them to the salt water. There is good in that it will probably help kill the disease that is afflicting them, but bad in the harm to the fish themselves.

Finally, to answer you question, salt in the water may affect the medication. That is part of the reason some of the medications the saltwater keepers use is different than the freshwater keepers. It is unclear how much effect salt could have, and is probably best to check with the manufacturer to know before mixing. However, I hope that I've convinced you that salt isn't necessary at all, so mixing salt and medications is hopefully just a moot point at this time.
 
In this case I am going to have to disagree with Bignose (I can't believe I'm saying that). When treating with metro, which is for internal protizoans, epsom salt helps to keep the fish from getting constipated when the metro kills the protizoans and the suddenly head down the digestive tract. You don't want to create a second problem by solving the first one.

I've used metro with angels numerous times, along with epsom salt. It's a standard treatment for me.
 
If it is accepted and proven to use salt with metro, then that is fine. I just don't think that it is a good idea to introduce salt when the effects it will have are unknown.

Also, the bigger point of my post is that the myth about salt reducing stress levels is a total misapplication of the science.
 

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