Ram eggs removal

[Jer-]

Hi

Is there a safe way of removing ram eggs from the surface of bogwood or such things into another tank

my rams laid eggs on the biggest piece of wood in my tank and there is no way for me to take out the wood unless i destroy the whole layout.... so i was hoping there is another way to get the out?

thx

 

[Jer-]

can no one help?? the eggs are nearly hatching and i dont want them in my 15gal tank as they can fall into the gravel and die~

help

 

[pnyklr3]

There will be no way to get them off of the wood without damaging them. I'm not sure ho it goes with ram eggs, but with apistos the eggs are laid on the top of the "cave". When they hatch as wrigglers, they fall to the floor of the cave, and wriggle there until they become free swimming. I'm not sure if you need to worry about them dying because the fall to the gravel, just worry that something will gobble them up if the female isn't watching.

EDIT: Oh, and for future reference: If you ever need to/are able to remove the eggs, amek sure that they stay submerged in water the entire time you transfer. Depending on the size of the cave, you can place a bowl in the tank, put the cave in the bowl, and lift the whole thing out with the eggs and water inside.

 

[Jer-]

I know this topic is old but i jus wanted to say that the eggs did hatch...all of them except for like 6. anyways, the wrigglers, like i predicted started to fall one by one down the wood and onto the gravel but the ram in charge does not bother picking them back up!!!!!! i did see the male try it once but he killed the baby instead.

So then i got an airline tubing and siphoned out the wirgglers into another tank!!!!!!!!!!!

The babies were all wriggling on the floor for a few days. then i added Java moss. but i rinsed it in too hot and chlorinated water first and probably killed all the good stuff in it. the killed bacteria probably poluted my wrigglers tank and killed 90 percent of all my wrigglers.

Now i have like 7 babies swimmin aroun in the tank....i hope they grow up to be as beautiful as their parents are.

 

[Jer-]

Oh and i would like to know whether Ram breeders on this forum are bothered about the babies falling on the gravel and wriggling their way into the deep dirty parts and dying? that really bothers me when the eggs hatch...i jus get so worried.
I use the normal kind of gravel u find at the LFS....not the big coarse ones but the normal, medium ones. im guessing the babies could die in that rite? or do they usually survive?

 

[nc_nutcase]

From everything I've read (same crap about not being an expert, but educating myself ) spawning tanks tend to not have a substrate, but just use the glass bottom of the aquarium as the tanks 'floor'. I believe it is for this exact reason. To me an aquarium without substrate is a glass box (I know that's what an aquarium is but I like to protect my denial). Therefore a sandy bottom would be less likely to 'eat up' your wigglers.

PS - Jer, same thing about that lil dude that has to pee... post more

 

[Jer-]

hmm....a bare bottom is a nono cos i already have two tanks runnin (one with rams the other with cockatoos) which both have substrate (oh and one babies tank). damn.... i could not afford another tank. plus i would love it for the babies to swim around in the planted environment.

I guess i will have to remove the eggs everytime into a bare bottom small extra tank then.... I guess my rams will never learn to be good parents.

haha. nutcase- if u like it so much then jus steal it... i mean, i stole it off someone else. plus no one is watching

 

[pnyklr3]

I know this may seem odd, but try to place something underneath the area wher the eggs were. If she lays her eggs there again, then the wrigglers will fall onto that, and not the gravel.

Anything flat like a plate should work. Use you imagination to figure out something nice to put in there.....it's too close to bed right now, and my imagination isn't working.