Puffer - When To Start Salt

Here in the states I but marine salt in 25lb bags! It seems decieving to say that the salt lasts for a while but I am able to go about 6 months on 1 bag that costs me $16. That was with a GSP that I had at full Ocean Salinity for the last 6 months!

SLC
 
Where on earth did you get salt that cheap? Cheapest I can find is about $32 for a 5 gallon bucket.
 
Not a clue, sorry. No idea how much that is in real money (US$ ;) ) or how much the average cost is there.
 
I get it from my LFS they sell tanks and supplies for next to nothing and their fish are priced extremely high, the quality is extremely high though as is the knowlege of the staff!

SLC
 
Would this tank be okay to keep a puffer in - I worked it out at 15gals (UK) and it is a decent price. Also considering it comes with eheim stuff it can't be too bad can it? I already have something to stand it on so I just need the tank.
Thanks,
Rob.
 
Looks fine to me.

EDIT: I take that back, depends on the type of puffer. That is not sufficient size for a Green Spotted Puffer. They require a minimum of 30 gallons but do best in larger tanks.
 
I agree with Boxermom. For a GSP, which is going to get to around 12-15 cm, you probably need to be looking at a tank around the 30 UK gallon mark, at least.

If money is a factor, there are workarounds. Get a big tank, but economise on the hood and the lighting. A simple condensation tray will do as a hood, and you don't need lighting at all. Putting a household lamp nearby will do fine. I sometimes place breeding tanks by windows, and that can work very well. You don't want direct light, at least not for more than an hour or two, or the temperature will rise too much. But otherwise sunlight is fine, and the fish seem to enjoy natural daylight.

Undergravel filters are another cheap but effective alternative. On the downside, they aren't easy to maintain, and setting them up can be a chore. But on the flip side, they are very good at cleaning water of nitrite and ammonium, and because you can make one from coral sand and calcum plus chips, it will also buffer the pH and hardness of the water. Read up on undergravel filters for marine tanks, and build one of those.

£40 should get you a three-foot tank with a 30 gallon capacity, which would be the minimum for a single GSP. Factor in another thirty odd pounds for an undergravel filter plate and a powerhead (ideally, get two smaller powerheads instead of one big one). Alternatively, a reasonably powerful air pump and a couple of airstones could be used instead of the powerheads. This would be cheaper but noisier. A heater should cost you under £20. To my mind, that's a much better set-up than £75 for a 15 gallon tank.

You can always add niceties like hoods and lights once you have the extra money to spend.

Cheers,

Neale
 
Thanks alot nmonks and boxermom (and anyone else) for all the advice :) - when I find out what puffers are available to me (would have found out yesterday but the lfs guy was on holiday so I couldnt talk to him, will find out next week) I will post my finds up so we can work out what would fit my budget (as cheap as possible).
Thanks again,
Rob.
:)
 
Even better, you can use changes in salinity to zap external parasites like whitespot.


do tell us more...
in order to "zap" whitespot, should we be raising/ lowering?
GSPs currently at 1.006 SG in a 10g (while other tanks cycle).

Thanks,
MoMa
 
Simple. Freshwater whitespot (and other external parasites) cannot tolerate brackish or marine water. Brackish water fish can tolerate very rapid changes, contrary to popular belief. Mollies can be adapted to seawater within an hour, and scats from freshwater to seawater within 2-3 hours.

To kill things like fungus, you dip the fish. A brackish water fish can be taken from SG 1.005-1.010 and dumped in either fresh or salt water for 30 minutes. Repeat this 2-3 times and usually external fungus or fin rot will be killed outright, without the need for any medications.

For things that are contagious, like whitespot, gradually raise the salinity in the main aquarium, e.g. from 1.006 to 1.012. Do this over a couple of days so as not to shock the filter bacteria. The whitespot will die, and the cysts in the gravel will be killed, too. Again, no medicine needed.

With pufferfish and moray eels, both said to be sensitive to copper, salinity changes are a very powerful alternative to using potentially risky medications. Fish kept at SG 1.010 hardly ever get external parasites or infections anyway, because brackish water parasites cannot get into the aquarium easily. Freshwater parasites come with the wild and breed in the retailer's tanks, and likewise marine parasites, but brackish water fish are hardly ever kept in brackish water by dealers or importers, so that link in the chain is broken.

Cheers,

Neale

Even better, you can use changes in salinity to zap external parasites like whitespot.
do tell us more...
in order to "zap" whitespot, should we be raising/ lowering?
GSPs currently at 1.006 SG in a 10g (while other tanks cycle).
 

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