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So, this is my thought.
55 gallon heavily planted aquarium with weekly water changes of 65%

12 rummynose tetras
10 ember tetras
10 otocinclus catfish
8 harlequin rasboras
7 white skirt tetras.

Yes or no?
Maybe take off the skirts?
 
It should work, but it also depends on your filtration.
 
What are the tank dimensions (length x width x height)?

What is the GH (general hardness), KH (carbonate hardness) and pH of your water supply?
 
48 long x 13 deep x tall.
Dont rremember exact GH and PH but GH was really low. The same as @Byron s levels

Edit: dimensions in inches not centimeters
 
Byron has soft acid water.

Drop the skirt/ widow tetras and the others will be fine together.

Have 6-8 Otocinclus, 10 is probably a few too many.
Make sure the tank is well established and has lots of algae and driftwood before adding the Otocinclus.

Quarantine the Harlequin Rasboras for a month before adding them to a display tank because they regularly have bacterial infections.
 
Byron has soft acid water.

Drop the skirt/ widow tetras and the others will be fine together.

Have 6-8 Otocinclus, 10 is probably a few too many.
Make sure the tank is well established and has lots of algae and driftwood before adding the Otocinclus.

Quarantine the Harlequin Rasboras for a month before adding them to a display tank because they regularly have bacterial infections.
Great thanks :) I already have 6 otos in the tank, and the plants are arriving soon :) my current stocking is
6 rummynose
6 otocinclus
1 mystery snail
And that's it :) so I was just looking to increase my shoals and then add some more fish
 
Byron has soft acid water.

Drop the skirt/ widow tetras and the others will be fine together.

Have 6-8 Otocinclus, 10 is probably a few too many.
Make sure the tank is well established and has lots of algae and driftwood before adding the Otocinclus.

Quarantine the Harlequin Rasboras for a month before adding them to a display tank because they regularly have bacterial infections.
Do you have another suggestion instead of the harlequin rasboras? Are the skirt tetras aggressive or is it just too many fish?
 
The skirt tetras grow bigger than the other fish you listed and are much more aggressive.

Get another 6-10 rummynose and quarantine them and any new fish for a month before adding them to the tank.

Red or black phantom tetras will go with them.
Sparkling gouramis or Betta imbellis.
Pencilfish or hatchetfish.
Aphyosemion or Epiplaty killifish (not the gold panchax tho, they get big).
Iriatherina werneri
Pygmy Corydoras
 
How many hatchet fish would you suggest?
 
So....
12 rummynose
10 embers
8 hatchetfish
6 otos

Could I add anything else? Lol I love the look of heavily stocked tanks, but I wont add more if it's not ideal
 
I think you're fully stocked, but it really depends on the filtration.
I have two 40 gallon over the edge filters in the tank
 
I have two 40 gallon over the edge filters in the tank

If "over the edge" means hang-on-the-back, one will be more than enough. In my 70g 4-foot tank, the canister gave out so I got a Fluval Quiet Flow internal filter rated for a 40g tank. All I wanted (and all you want here) is water movement with some surface disturbance at one end, and this filter delivered it. It has an internal "sponge" sort of cartridge that has activated carbon built in, but after a few weeks the carbon is not active and I just rinse it out under the tap every water change. I am assuming plants, and floating plants, here, given the fish species intended, so filtration can/should be minimal. Actually nothing more than moving water around gently, and through media to keep it clear. The plants will handle the clean aspect, along with substantial regular water changes. Hatchetfish enter this issue too.

On earlier posts, I agree with most of the fish suggestions. Skirt (aka widow) tetras are rambunctious for all the other fish and won't work. Especially with hatchetfish. Rummys need larger groups, here I would aim for 20. Otos I would stay with the six you have. Embers are fine, say 12-15; in larger tanks more are better for such small fish.

Hatchetfish...which species? This makes a difference. The smaller-sized species in the genus Carnegiella should have larger groups, at least 20; one species or mixed (within the genus). These fish will remain at the surface permanently, unless something startles them. They rarely descend; mine sometimes did during the pitch black darkness of night. I had reason to go in the fish room a couple times with a flashlight (never turn on room lights in darkness) and was interested to frequently see the marble hatchetfish mid-level in the water.

The other larger-sized species in Thoracocharax or Gasteropelecus are more often below the surface and do tend to be more "playful" active. The Platinum (Thortacocharax stellatus) especially. A group of 9-10 of one of these would be fine.

Given the other fish, any of the hatchets would work, but perhaps Carnegiella species better. C. strigata (marble), C. marthae (black-winged) are the more robust; C. myersi (pygmy) is the smallest known hatchetfish and very delicate.

You have to be careful with names of the hatchets; I have seen them inaccurate a lot, not just the common names but the scientific too.

The Harlequin seem to have left the list...if you want a rasbora, one of the related species Trigonostigma hengeeli or T. espei would work very well in this set-up.
 
If "over the edge" means hang-on-the-back, one will be more than enough. In my 70g 4-foot tank, the canister gave out so I got a Fluval Quiet Flow internal filter rated for a 40g tank. All I wanted (and all you want here) is water movement with some surface disturbance at one end, and this filter delivered it. It has an internal "sponge" sort of cartridge that has activated carbon built in, but after a few weeks the carbon is not active and I just rinse it out under the tap every water change. I am assuming plants, and floating plants, here, given the fish species intended, so filtration can/should be minimal. Actually nothing more than moving water around gently, and through media to keep it clear. The plants will handle the clean aspect, along with substantial regular water changes. Hatchetfish enter this issue too.

On earlier posts, I agree with most of the fish suggestions. Skirt (aka widow) tetras are rambunctious for all the other fish and won't work. Especially with hatchetfish. Rummys need larger groups, here I would aim for 20. Otos I would stay with the six you have. Embers are fine, say 12-15; in larger tanks more are better for such small fish.

Hatchetfish...which species? This makes a difference. The smaller-sized species in the genus Carnegiella should have larger groups, at least 20; one species or mixed (within the genus). These fish will remain at the surface permanently, unless something startles them. They rarely descend; mine sometimes did during the pitch black darkness of night. I had reason to go in the fish room a couple times with a flashlight (never turn on room lights in darkness) and was interested to frequently see the marble hatchetfish mid-level in the water.

The other larger-sized species in Thoracocharax or Gasteropelecus are more often below the surface and do tend to be more "playful" active. The Platinum (Thortacocharax stellatus) especially. A group of 9-10 of one of these would be fine.

Given the other fish, any of the hatchets would work, but perhaps Carnegiella species better. C. strigata (marble), C. marthae (black-winged) are the more robust; C. myersi (pygmy) is the smallest known hatchetfish and very delicate.

You have to be careful with names of the hatchets; I have seen them inaccurate a lot, not just the common names but the scientific too.

The Harlequin seem to have left the list...if you want a rasbora, one of the related species Trigonostigma hengeeli or T. espei would work very well in this set-up.
Thanks byron! Yes it hangs over the back :)
So for my frazzled brain could you tell me what numbers lf each species in a 55 gallon you would suggest?
 

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