Poorly Guppy - Please Help

[lynnathon]

Hi, we bought 4 guppies (1 male 3 female) a week ago - they are in a Q tank (luckily!) - 35l, internal sponge filter, air stone, some plants, Nitrate 40 (that is our tap reading () nitrite 0 ammonia 0 ph 8, temp 25 degrees. The male was ok at first then was very lethargic, laying on the bottom of the tank or sitting on top of a floating leaf at the top, he didn't eat. I put some Interpet liquisil in and he is now ok - took a good 4 days for him to perk up though.

However, since then the females have started down the same way.

1 female seems to have a patch of white almost like a saddle across her back, the other has been really lethargic and not eating - much like the male was. But the one that is causing most concern started off with white edges to one fin. She now has a reed pattern under her scales and what looks like a blood blister on her side.

I did a water change at the weekend and put in some Esha 2000 when I first noticed her fin on Sat, since then she has got steadily worse - today the blood blister thing has appeared. I am not sure what to do, the water stats have not changed - I have checked them morning and night. (liquid and dip stick methods).

I did a water change again today as the nitrates had risen a little and I added a little salt and re-medicated with the Esha 2000.

Help please!

Thanks

Lynn

 

[WILDER]

Your fish have a very bad bacterial infection.
If the patch of white is fluffy and forms a saddle shape that flexibactor columnaris.
White edging to tial fin is bacterial as well.
The blood blister is bacterial aswell, does the bleeding look like its beneath the skin.

http/www.flippersandfins.net/flexibacter.htm

 

[lynnathon]

Your fish have a very bad bacterial infection.
If the patch of white is fluffy and forms a saddle shape that flexibactor columnaris.
White edging to tial fin is bacterial as well.
The blood blister is bacterial aswell, does the bleeding look like its beneath the skin.

Yes I think so, the blood blister thing has made her scales raise in that area. She is not bloated or puffy anywhere else. Looks like she has a vivid red bruise all down her body.

( poor fish!

 

[WILDER]

Bruising beneath the skin can also be septicemia.
Septicemia the bacteria can enter the tank from the fish its best to issolate the sick fish.
Esha 2000 I think it dosn't treat as much as they say.
I would go in with anti internal bacteria med by interpet and pimafix.

 

[Hawkins]

you say you get 40ppm nitrate from your tap, are you using the hot or cold tap?
hot tap usually comes from tank in attic which has bad things dropping in it .. ( i learnt that today )

 

[freddythefish]

does this mean you shouldn't use any water form the hot tap then? I try to use as little as possible but if im in a rush i might use a bit to bring the water up to temperature!!