Pleckos Swimming To The Top For Air

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I noticed today that my two pleckos kept darting up to the surface and it appears that they are trapping air and bringing it back to the bottom. When i saw this i watched the other fish and they do not appear to be laboring or breathing heavy. Is this normal?

Tanks Specs:
29 Gallon
BioWheel Filter
2 pleckos
2 bala's
5 baby-small tiger barbs
2 cardinals
1 small yellow puffer
numerous plants but no airrock...
 
What type of Pleco's do you have?
I'd try adding an airstone if you can. That may help. Also sometimes they just do it, but not all the time.
 
I'd definitely get an airstone as it sounds as though they are struggling for oxygen. The only time my Plecos have done this is when our filter clogged and they were getting practically no oxygen.
We have 2 airstones in our Pleco tank and have no problems at all now.
 
Get the puffer out of there!
I heard somewhere that plecos have developed lungs, and I occasionally see my sisters going up for air every now and again - she has an air stone is as well.
 
I would try airstones. My girlfriend has a common pleco in a 20 gallon long ( i know small, upgrading to 55 Gal in a week) In that tank she has a 12 inch air strip, and a 6 inch in diameter circle air stone. He was gulping before she added the circle airstone. I've read somewhere that they need a lot of oxygen.
 
Thanks for all the tips guys. I'm going to elevate the filter to disturb the surface more and see how it goes. I have another thread on getting food past my tiger barbs and could use some more help there.
 
It may also be a sign of waste and other toxins building up on the bottom of the tank as he's your only bottom feeder and it doesn't sound like there is much circulation in the tank. How often do you do water changes and what are your water stats?

I second the get the puffer out of there statement, they aren't at all suited to community tanks. Depending on the species it may also be a brackish puffer so you wouldn't want to keep him in a freshwater aquarium. Balas should be rehomed as well, they get much too large for a 29 gallon, depending on your pleco species you may want to rehome them too and get a smaller species. Are they commons or sailfins? If so they'll get much too large, there are plenty of species perfectly suited to your tank however.
 
Tank Stats
So i vaccum the bottom of the tank weekly and administer about a 10-20% water change.
PH looks to be dead on 7 & My NH3 & NH4 levels are consistently between 0 - .25 mg/L (never making it into the .25 color range)

Species (Could use some advice here):
Originally i was going to have a cardinal or schooling tank, but i had problems getting the wild cardinals to adapt. And after two bouts I've decided to keep fast moving or aggressive fish that are plant friendly.

The barb's have been great

I know the bala's grow and i got them knowing that they'd either force me to get a bigger tank or i would have to trade them for smaller ones down the road. What i dont know is how fast will they grow? Right now they're 2.5"

The puffer is a fresh water dwarf puffer and my lfs keeps them in a tank coexisting with tiger barbs (i dont know if they are correct in doing this so I'd like further advice).

As for the plecos... I have a common pleco and a butterfly pleco (after doing further research i believe this guys a loach). The buttery plec/loach is great. Its a good looking fish and will come out and socialize (id reccomend them to others). As for the common, I will have to part with him b/c of his growth and because he devours leafy plants. Im thinking about donating him to a lfs and would like to get a smaller plant friendly one (any recs?)

Any general advice or good candidates for additions would be great.
 
Sounds like maintainence is fine then and your problem is just the aeration. :good:

To keep the balas you're looking at a tank over a hundred gallons, plus they need to be kept in a school, you'll be better off rehoming them while they're small to avoid stunting them.

Puffers don't do well with any other fish as they're vicious little buggers... even if they do well for a short period of time, they can snap overnight and rip tankmates in half. You could do a small species tank with a single dwarf puffer (5 gallons would actually be enough for one) and no other fish. If you end up keeping the puffer, another thing to keep in mind is he'll need small snails in his diet to trim down his beak.

Is this what your buttefly loach looks like? He should be fine in your tank. If you want a pleco that doesn't eat plants you could go for one of the varieties that prefer wood (like the clown pleco) or meaty foods. Planet Catfish has great information on lots of species, sizes and diets.

There are a few smaller loach species like the zebra loach that make great bottom dwellers, or you could keep some corydoras catfish. Both need to be kept in groups of at least three, preferably more. Tetras are great, but you'll also want to keep those in groups, maybe get a few more cardinals? Don't get anything with long fins as your barbs will nip at them.
 
What temp have you got the tank at? I find mine go up for air more when the temps high. Less oxygen in the water when the temps raised you see.

I'm sorry you'll have to part with your plec, but it's for the best. With them growing to 12-18", the smallest tank they should be in is 4ft x 18" x 18" (works out at 75g I think but it's dimensions that are important with big plecs - they're armoured so cant turn easily). And that's if they stay at the smaller end of the scale - obviously an 18" plec isn't going to be able to turn around in an 18" wide tank!

Anyhoo, good luck for future stocking. A bristlenose should do fine in your tank, if that's any help - and they're cute too :)
 
no need to buy an air pump and that, jus move ya filter up a bit if you can so that the output is disturbing the waters surface.


that will do the job jus as well as any airstone.
Not everyone needs an air pump, I agree but definitely worth investing in one.
When our filter clogged there was no oxygen and we lost our Magnum Pleco and very nearly lost our Green Phantom. The filter had only been clogged for a couple of hours but it was enough to cause damage.
We now play on the safe side and make sure we have airstones just in case... :/
 
Agree Stang, I always keep a few air pumps around, and always have one in a tank unless I'm running multiple filters. They're also great for emergency hospital tanks/buckets/tupperware... My fish seem to enjoy playing in the bubbles as well, especially the loaches.
 
Agree Stang, I always keep a few air pumps around, and always have one in a tank unless I'm running multiple filters. They're also great for emergency hospital tanks/buckets/tupperware... My fish seem to enjoy playing in the bubbles as well, especially the loaches.

Just wante to let everyone know that I've returned teh Bala's and the Common Pleco. I think I'm going to replace the Bala's with Blue Ram Cichlids.

Thanks for all the Help
 

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